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    GS1085: RS 34 Flatside vs VM33 Smoothbore?

    Which of these two carbs are the better choice for GS's? I have been looking for a set of RS 34 Flatslides's but a set of VM 33's S/Bores fell into my lap. I have heard the VM 33's don't carbureate as well on street bikes as the VM29's. So, what's your experience with these two Carbs . . . should I keep looking for the RS 34's?
    Last edited by srsupertrap; 08-14-2010, 09:34 AM.
    Steve

    1979 GS1000E (45 Yrs), 1981 GPz550 (11 Yrs)

    #2
    General oppion is 29's are better for the street, the 33's will be almost just as good but the flatslides have a more abrupt delivery over the round slides. Had 33's for mine but a "mate' sold them on me for his habit so running 29's now. Would be using the 33's if i had them. Buts thats just me.

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      #3
      Originally posted by sharpy View Post
      General oppion is 29's are better for the street, the 33's will be almost just as good but the flatslides have a more abrupt delivery over the round slides. Had 33's for mine but a "mate' sold them on me for his habit so running 29's now. Would be using the 33's if i had them. Buts thats just me.
      Happen to recall your VM33 baseline setting/jetting?
      Steve

      1979 GS1000E (45 Yrs), 1981 GPz550 (11 Yrs)

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        #4
        i like the RS carbs because of the accelerator pump and the cool clicky clicky sounds they make.

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          #5
          If you buy the vm33, check if the throttle slide are kawasaki or suzuki.
          i have spec of the base jetting here, i will check that today.
          Like blowerbike said you can beat the sound of the rs at idle.
          marc
          https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ie_twisted.gif AIR COOLED MONSTERS NEVER DIE https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ie_twisted.gif
          1978 GS1000C X2
          1978 GS1000E X2
          1979 GS1000S
          1979 gs1000
          1983 gs400e

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            #6
            I already have a set of VM33's which came off a GS1000 drag bike. Just started opening them up today: the mains are #130, 1.5 Slides has a push pull throttle set up. Need a thorugh inspection, cleaning & new screws.

            I didn't know about the RS clickety sound. Please explain further
            Last edited by srsupertrap; 08-14-2010, 12:56 PM.
            Steve

            1979 GS1000E (45 Yrs), 1981 GPz550 (11 Yrs)

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              #7
              the flat slides pulse back and forth against the carb body's and make a clicking sound at idle..
              very coooool as long as a person doesn't think there valves need adjusted or somethings wrong with the engine.

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                #8
                Either one could be bolted up to a STOCK 16 valve 1100/1150 motor& run great but if you are putting them on an 8 valver, it BETTER have some work done to it! Ray.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                  the flat slides pulse back and forth against the carb body's and make a clicking sound at idle..
                  very coooool as long as a person doesn't think there valves need adjusted or somethings wrong with the engine.
                  Was going to mention that "rattle" about those flatslides. Not a big fan of noisy extras unless its a dry clutch setup. But thats very very rare on a suzuki.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sharpy View Post
                    Was going to mention that "rattle" about those flatslides. Not a big fan of noisy extras unless its a dry clutch setup. But thats very very rare on a suzuki.
                    SR, Perhaps we could get together sometime, I'm in Boulder, & have a 81 GS1100E ( wisco 1168 10.25-1,webcam WSG338 cams,( flowed by Tom Wirth of Mountain Machine.) Yosh (race 4-1) & misc. I have run,29 smoothbores,33 smoothbores, & now running a set of 750 GSXR slingshots ( I believe they are 36mm). and am VERY happy with them. performance is seamless & seemingly un affected by changes in altitude/temp. spirited riding on Peak to Peak renders @ 50mpg avg Corrected Dynojet readings are 133 HP w/110 lbs torque. If intrested, PM me. & maybe we can swap bikes for a couple miles.. G

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by gane View Post
                      SR, Perhaps we could get together sometime, I'm in Boulder, & have a 81 GS1100E ( wisco 1168 10.25-1,webcam WSG338 cams,( flowed by Tom Wirth of Mountain Machine.) Yosh (race 4-1) & misc. I have run,29 smoothbores,33 smoothbores, & now running a set of 750 GSXR slingshots ( I believe they are 36mm). and am VERY happy with them. performance is seamless & seemingly un affected by changes in altitude/temp. spirited riding on Peak to Peak renders @ 50mpg avg Corrected Dynojet readings are 133 HP w/110 lbs torque. If intrested, PM me. & maybe we can swap bikes for a couple miles.. G
                      so you ran 29's on a 16 valve 1100???
                      thats odd.

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                        #12
                        Corrected Dynojet readings are 133 HP w/110 lbs torque.
                        110ft/lb or 110Nm? 110ft/lb seems like an awfully high torque figure. Not saying it'd be a bad thing to have though, hahaha.

                        - boingk

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by gane View Post
                          @ 50mpg avg Corrected Dynojet readings are 133 HP w/110 lbs torque.
                          I cry BS!!! No WAY that torque number!!! Ray.

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                            #14
                            1.5 is the kawi slide, the suzuki slide is 2.0.
                            both run.Almost all vm33 we see for sale listed gs1000 came off KZ.
                            Marc





                            Originally posted by srsupertrap View Post
                            I already have a set of VM33's which came off a GS1000 drag bike. Just started opening them up today: the mains are #130, 1.5 Slides has a push pull throttle set up. Need a thorugh inspection, cleaning & new screws.

                            I didn't know about the RS clickety sound. Please explain further
                            https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ie_twisted.gif AIR COOLED MONSTERS NEVER DIE https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ie_twisted.gif
                            1978 GS1000C X2
                            1978 GS1000E X2
                            1979 GS1000S
                            1979 gs1000
                            1983 gs400e

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                              #15
                              I see, I found the VM33 recommended jetting at the bottom of this page

                              Tried pasting the chart but lost all the formatting.

                              I am not sure if the VM33 1.5 Slides will work in Denver. My previous experience was I had to swap out the 1.5's in my VM29 with 2.0 slides to make them work at altitude. A 2.0 Slide allows more air flow so I am thinking the 1.5 will make it stumble, cough or something. Yet the guy I bought them from had them installed on a GS1000 dragbike, He didn't strike me as too mechanically inclined. You can ask Tkent02.

                              I am interested in any comments/experience from anyone running VM33's with 1.5 slides in the GS1085. Trippivot?
                              Last edited by srsupertrap; 08-15-2010, 10:25 AM.
                              Steve

                              1979 GS1000E (45 Yrs), 1981 GPz550 (11 Yrs)

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