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    Running too rich, adjust needles or jets

    I have a 78 gs 750 a me and a buddy chopped up and made into a bobber. I had problems with the floats sticking and dumping gas all over the engine. I cleaned out the bowls and put in a new inline fuel filter now no more leaks. Now the problem is once I go to give it full throttle it loads up and has no power, ind of makes that gargle sound. Should I change the jets or can I adjust the needle? Im running pod filters and open exhaust. Need the quickest fix possible I have a ride to go on in 2 weeks

    #2
    I don't even.......

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      #3
      Get rid of the fuel filter you dont need it and do some plug chops to see where you are
      Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

      1981 GS550T - My First
      1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
      2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

      Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
      Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
      and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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        #4
        As Cowboyup says, you need to run the engine at specific throttle openings, then "chop" the ignition (use the 'kill' switch), pull the clutch and coast to a stop in a safe place. Read the plugs to see what they are telling you. The pilot circuit can be checked at 1/4 throttle, the needles are checked at 1/2 throttle, the mains are checked at wide-open. This process is known as "plug chops".

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          #5
          Prob, main jets then eh?
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            #6
            Originally posted by Seana23 View Post
            Prob, main jets then eh?
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            Possibly but no telling Seana; I'm no expert but reading and listening to the guys that do know makes me think something else is not correct. One thing I didn't see as well was how well he "cleaned out the bowls" since the bowls are a very tiny part of the entire carb system. Spraying cleaner at them doesn't account for much cleaning power as we both know the inside passages can be real clogged and he'll never know it. Also, what sizes are his jets and what other true maintenance has been done?

            Depending on what kind of filter you put in, it stopped the leaks because nothing is getting through which I'm thinking relates to your gurgling sound. Did you set your floats to the proper level as stated in the service manual?

            And please for all that's holy put some good pipes on your bike instead of making a nuisance throughout the neighborhood.
            Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

            1981 GS550T - My First
            1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
            2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

            Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
            Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
            and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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              #7
              I cleaned out the bowls because there was a bunch of sand in them when I took them off I plan on going through the carbs because my friend did all the engine work and now no longer lives here. I have to figure out what I need for jets and everything, as far as my pipes go I like em that way, Stock sucks thats why I cut my bike in half and made it cool lol Thanks for the info tho

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                #8
                Start from the tank..make sure any loose material is flushed out of there and check the screen on the petcock for crap stuck to it. Then remove the inline filter.. then dissassemble the carbs and be sure the "sand" didnt get sucked up and clogged the pilot jets, the needle jets, or clog a passage in the bodies. Then set the pilot screw ( on the bottom ) at 7/8 turn out from lightly seated and the mixture screw ( on the side ) at 2 turns out. This is the "baseline settings" and youll probably see very decent performance there as a start point. I am assuming you have the stock VM26s???
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  #9
                  Regardless of our differing tastes in what constitutes a "cool" bike, you need to start with CLEAN carbs set to proper specifications before you start making adjustments.

                  I just might help to tear them down completely, clean all the jets AND the passages in the carb bodies by soaking them in Berryman's Carb Cleaner Dip for a day (each), then re-assembling with a new set of o-rings from cycleorings.com. It is well worth the time and effort, and you will KNOW that things have been set correctly, then you can make informed adjustments from there.

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                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    #10
                    You can put 2 carb bodies side by side in the can if you remove the basket..use some pliers or whatever to set them in and take them out. READ THE FRONT OF THE CAN WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT TOXIC AND CAN BE ABSORBED THRU THE SKIN....WEAR RUBBER KITCHEN GLOVES FOR HANDLING THIS STUFF!!!!!!! And by "a day" he means a full 24 hours for the soak cycle on all parts and bodies.
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #11
                      Oh and back to the original post.. isnt any fastest or easiest fix my man..do it right or keep struggling.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #12
                        If you've bobbed it I would be a bit wary of using full throttle. Best for pottering around on the pilot circuit.
                        79 GS1000S
                        79 GS1000S (another one)
                        80 GSX750
                        80 GS550
                        80 CB650 cafe racer
                        75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                        75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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