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    #16
    Cruizin_Image_Co also now sell 65mm stock type cast pistons that bore +3.00mm overbore into GS650 cylinders, FYI...
    They won't increase the compression ratio at all or the ability to run bigger aftermarket camshafts as they are basically a stock OEM style cast replacement, but it does increase the displacement quite a bit.
    I should note that they are marketed for a 650, and with a head gasket, so the head gasket would not be thick enough to run as is on a 550 / 650 hybrid. You would need to have Cometic custom make you a .060" 65mm bore version of their GS650 gasket (around a 66 mm bore size on the gasket or whatever clearance they recommend).
    Unless the gasket that comes with that piston set measures around 1.5mm or thicker.
    In my opinion that is a lot better than trying to use a GS 650 custom thickness base gasket and stack the egg-shaped o-rings on top of the gasket, when they are originally meant to be metal to metal with .020 inch base gasket, not stacked up on top of a paper gasket and compressed .020"/0.5mm more than their design.
    Or you can email gasketstogo.com and have them make you a one-off custom multi-layer steel head gasket based on the last then final version that we had made under my name for the GS550/GS650 hybrid engines. 1.6mm is a good thickness if your engine deck surface and cylinder head surfaces are in pristine condition with no scratching on the aluminum head in critical sealing areas around the bores or the outside 4 corner studs or the cam chain tunnel.
    If you need the cylinder block resurfaced, 1.7 mm or 1.8 mm thickness would be good if it is just a minor skim coat taken off. If the head needs resurfaced, that does not put the piston any closer to the head, therefor thicker head or base gaskets are not needed. it does still alter the camshaft timing slightly and puts the valves slightly closer to the pistons, but it does increase the compression ratio when the head is resurfaced.
    Last edited by Chuck78; 02-23-2019, 11:44 AM.
    '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
    '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
    '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
    '79 GS425stock
    PROJECTS:
    '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
    '77 GS550 740cc major mods
    '77 GS400 489cc racer build
    '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
    '78 GS1000C/1100

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      #17
      Originally posted by Chuck78 View Post
      Look up pictures of a GS750 or GS450 frame. Look directly behind where the ignition coil bolt on. There are be a diagonal braces there that go from the spine down to the left and the right frame tubes. You will see on the 550 that this is absent. If you need better clarification, I have a parts bike under a tarp next to my garage door that I can take a photo of. Or a few frames in the attic if you need better clarification, I can climb up there and take photos.
      Gotcha. I see what you are talking about now. I won't need you climbing up into the attic Thank you!
      I was looking at that 740 kit, I assume the thicker base gasket is needed to clear valve travel and keep cam timing, I haven't done the measurements yet, just collecting parts right now. Was planning on using the 550 cams, I have seen differing opinions on using both 550 cams or just one or going with more aggressive cams, I forget the grinds and durations right now but I know there were at one time a slew of available cams for the 650. Being that this kit would assume to maintain the stock compression ratio, what would your advice be on which cams to use?
      Last edited by Guest; 02-23-2019, 07:48 PM.

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        #18
        550 stock cams or the Megacycle or Web cams grinds that say "stock pistons okay, but must check clearance." Different valve/cam timing can create piston to valve collision in some cases, so aftermarket cams should always be checked. These cams are around .354" lift or so. Web is far more expensive if you are on a budget, vs Megacycle ($450/set last I checked a few years back).
        The 65mm (+3.00mm overbore i.e.740cc) kit I mentioned here was the $200 cast/OEM-type from Cruizin_Image_Co Japan.
        It is possible to get another batch of Wiseco pistons made but you will need 3 sets minimum. They are very nice quality forged aluminum pistons. Higher compression, deeper valve pockets to work with higher valve lift performance camshaft grinds.
        Last edited by Chuck78; 02-23-2019, 08:09 PM.
        '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
        '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
        '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
        '79 GS425stock
        PROJECTS:
        '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
        '77 GS550 740cc major mods
        '77 GS400 489cc racer build
        '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
        '78 GS1000C/1100

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          #19
          Sweet. I would rather go with a set of Wiseco if available. I'll have to see if there is anyone else wanting to get a set. Otherwise I may pick up a second set of bores and do the Cruizin kit until some Wisecon sets come up.

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            #20
            There are more people looking to get some of the Wiseco pistons ordered soon, FYI. See the last page of the "Potential Group Purchase" thread in this same sub-forum.
            '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
            '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
            '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
            '79 GS425stock
            PROJECTS:
            '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
            '77 GS550 740cc major mods
            '77 GS400 489cc racer build
            '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
            '78 GS1000C/1100

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