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    #16
    Also, on a serious note, where is he sourcing the turbo? Hopefully not cobbled together from some Mustang SVO corpse.
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      #17
      No, a t25 is planned at the moment with i think he said a Harley carb? Yeah at the moment theyre rough. My 1000 sat for a year when the previous owner past away from cancer. The 850 i explained in a previous post. Both bike are coming along from how the were a week ago though. But i think ill just post up how the turbo turns out after its done since most on here seem to be against it.
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        #18
        Originally posted by thebrandonbeezy View Post
        No, a t25 is planned at the moment with i think he said a Harley carb? Yeah at the moment theyre rough. My 1000 sat for a year when the previous owner past away from cancer. The 850 i explained in a previous post. Both bike are coming along from how the were a week ago though. But i think ill just post up how the turbo turns out after its done since most on here seem to be against it.
        It's just a waste of time to put a turbo on. People have way too much time on their hands. I am sure his turbo is going to be nicely done, might as well have him get the grinder and sawsall out and continue the "customization" when he's done with the turbo.

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          #19
          Does he have any experience at all with turbos, or is this just a fascinating project?

          I have no idea whether a T25 would be the proper unit to use, but even within the T25 line, you have to specify the turbine and scrolls for the expected airflow. You can't simply use a turbo based on engine displacement, it has to be based on airflow.

          Can't necessarily fault the Harley carb, either. It was reported that a Harley carb was used on the Toyota that I had turboed over 40 years ago. After dialing in the jetting, it ran like a champ.

          Good luck with the project, keep us posted.

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            #20
            its sad that I asked a legitimate question and I get a bunch of sarcastic answers. why ruin a thread with ignorance. ohh well lets all act like ass holes because someone asks a legitimate question that we don't like. I didn't ask for an opinion when I do youll know it.
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              #21
              Thanks steve, we both have pretty extensive experience with turbocharged cars, we're just bored with cars now and want to move on to something faster. The T25 turbo is a Nissan Turbo I don't really know the exact specs on it but I can get them, it is very small
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                #22
                When I get off of work I'll post a picture of the 240Z that we're building, rb26 powered 10:1 e85 10.5mm cams 80mm turbo
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                  #23
                  20160806_145105.jpgheres the z
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                    #24
                    It has GOOD tires to be able to stick to the wall like that.

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                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #25
                      Haha yeah, still figuring out this forum and how to work it
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                        #26
                        My somewhat limited experience with a turbo involved a '74 Toyota Corolla, 1.6 engine, 8.5:1, forged Arias pistons .030 over, stock everything else. Custom header to turbo, 2.5" exhaust to the bumper. 22 psi boost , and did it all on 87 octane.

                        A guy I went to school with for a career change was trying to install a turbo on a resto-mod car. Could not convince him that a turbo for a 350 would not work on a 305, but he insisted on doing it. He was very disappointed with the results, I did not have the heart to say "I told you so."

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                        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                        Family Portrait
                        Siblings and Spouses
                        Mom's first ride
                        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by thebrandonbeezy View Post
                          its sad that I asked a legitimate question and I get a bunch of sarcastic answers. why ruin a thread with ignorance. ohh well lets all act like ass holes because someone asks a legitimate question that we don't like. I didn't ask for an opinion when I do youll know it.
                          I'm taking bets on the first part to break with an estimated 120bhp going through a 30 year old driveline that's already done a bunch of miles. Look up the maximum HP that Suzuki felt was safe to put through the shaft drive system, on the GS1100G for example.
                          The later GSX1100G was only shoving 100bhp through it, and a mere 73ft/lb of torque - sure, the engineering can take more, as Suzuki owners know, but for how long is a tired old shopping trolley going to last before the Big Bang?


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                            #28
                            Okay, here's a serious reply

                            All the G models have a wear issue with the splines in the rear wheel. I'd replace that, regardless of how it looks.
                            Then, U joints and the carrier/output shaft
                            Then, the outer clutch basket should get welded up
                            Crankshaft? Hard to know whether these were beefed up, as 850s rarely gain more than 10 HP from stock, and so I doubt that there's much data on that.

                            As all of these other jokers have mentioned, the 850 is an odd bike to turbo. So, start a build thread on it.
                            1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                            1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                            1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                            1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                            1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                            1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                            2007 DRz 400S
                            1999 ATK 490ES
                            1994 DR 350SES

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                              #29
                              Also back to your original question:
                              So what would be some weak points to check/ beef up? Clutch? Oil pump?
                              Be aware that the 850 is low-pressure oiling system. It is high-flow, low-pressure to handle the roller bearings.
                              When first started, oil pressure might be as high as 10. Warmed up and going down the road, typically about 3 or 4 psi.
                              Will the turbo in question survive that?

                              Also keep in mind that re-routing some oil to send it through the turbo will reduce flow to the rest of the engine.
                              Will the engine in question survive that?

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                              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                              Family Portrait
                              Siblings and Spouses
                              Mom's first ride
                              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                                #30
                                If the 850 is like the 1100 you can get a distribution block from mr turbo which will feed oil via the oil pressure sending unit area. However, the old kirs used Rajays, which operate at 30-60 lbs of pressure. You would need to verify the needed pressure for your turbo and get the appropriate reducer to meet the pressure needs of your turbo. Of course this is only if the it has the same oil pressure sending unit set up as an 1100.
                                1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

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