APE clutch kit

[Paul]

hey bad billy email me or PM me some time on how to make a 1-2 or a 1-2-3 auto trans....we have a billet 5 speed auto in one bike and in my bike i just have a back cut, how can i turn a stock gs 1100 trans into a semi auto like that? thanks richie

Bill, I'd also like to see how you made your own.
If I could make a set for myself I'd be very happy.

[kz]

Have you checked the steels for flatness?

New OEM-stock steels/fibers/springs arrived today.

[lecroy]

That should stop any slipping.

[kz]

Took the first testride with the new stock clutch/springs setup today. no clutch slipping

and my left arm in good shape...

[kz]

Just some follow up info....

Well, well now as the wheater is better, I had the chance to test the bike a little bit more.

At full throttle and in forfth gear the clutch starts to slip at 7000 rpm, I can see the tachoneedle go from 7000 to 10.000 rpm in almost no time.

So, I mounted three of the HD-springs back, a minor slipping is still there, but the bike is rideable.

Getting the feeling that I'm back where I started... :roll:

I think Lecroy:s advise is what I have to follow now.

"Staying in shape is important at any age. Lifting weights is not all that"bad for you".

[lecroy]

Why am I thinking that there is something wrong. Are you sure thats a stock motor??

Actually, I wonder if there is something else wrong with the setup you have. If I lived near you I would drop over today and help sort this out because I have a hard time thinking that the stock motor could slip the new stock parts if the clutch was setup right.

[kz]

Why am I thinking that there is something wrong. Are you sure thats a stock motor??

It's not stock any more... [-X

I mounted three non-stock Clutchsprings :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

The bike runs just fine with my new clutch. :-({|=

And having another clutch with steels f?r spare makes me feel safe if any more slipping should occur. \/

[lecroy]

Went back to your orignal post and read. I am not sure why I had the idea it was stock.

Not sure what to tell you now. You see what I am doing for the higher power engine. I don't have a good idea on spring force versus HP verus slippage. A data logger would answer the question on your setup.

Sounds like you don't want to add the heavy springs, so the lockup is going to be the way to go. I am sure even at 200HP you could run all stock springs without a problem. It's just a question on how much weight you need on the arms.

You may have already damaged your new plates.

[kz]

Went back to your orignal post and read. I am not sure why I had the idea it was stock.

Not sure what to tell you now. You see what I am doing for the higher power engine. I don't have a good idea on spring force versus HP verus slippage. A data logger would answer the question on your setup.

Sounds like you don't want to add the heavy springs, so the lockup is going to be the way to go. I am sure even at 200HP you could run all stock springs without a problem. It's just a question on how much weight you need on the arms.

You may have already damaged your new plates.

Well....

I don't think a stock clutch with stock springs can handle 178 hp. and I didn't thought that before I read your posts.

But what the heck, it was worth a try buying everything brand new....., unfortunally it didn't work out.

I now drive the stetup I first thought was the the best, stock fibers and steels with three HD-springs.

The conclusion is that the used fibers/steels, even that they there differnt brands (probably), didn't have any influence on the end result, I can mount them back anytime.

Six HD-spring was to much for at least my left arm, but three i can handle.

BTW:

The bike runs really nice now, even the clutch.

[lecroy]

I am sure even at 200HP you could run all stock springs without a problem.

I was talking about with a lockup. Would give you your nice soft pull. I have tried running three APE red springs on my old bike with a lockup. But this takes a toll on the plates.

You could get a new bike. Lighter, close to the same power, better handling and plus you get one of those girl clutch levers. I can pull mine in with my little finger.

[kz]

You could get a new bike. Lighter, close to the same power, better handling and plus you get one of those girl clutch levers. I can pull mine in with my little finger.

You are right, there are a lot of new nice bikes out there, probably to less cost as well, but not with the soul my old GS has. 8)