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Yeah, just reread your first post.1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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Have double checked the running tally in the build book and there are some parts that I listed twice, the front guard and bolts and headlight frame which has put the dry weight in error, oops. I have checked and corrected the running tally and then cross checked it with the wet weight.
So the build at the end of stage 1 has the following weights confirmed by commercial scales.
Dry weight = 181.603 kg.
Wet weight = 206.00 kg.
Total weight reduction for stage 1 comparing the factory dry weight vs the DW build dry weight = 50.397 kg.
Total weight reduction for stage 1 comparing the factory wet weight vs the DW build wet weight = 54 kg.
How can there be two different numbers in weight saving? I suspect the factory manual figures are not accurate but which one is the question? The DW build figures are correct as the commercial scales used to weigh the DW have been calibrated and are weighing accurately.
So what does it mean now? Best case is the DW is 54 kg lighter and worst case is the DW is 50.397 kg lighter. I have no control over how the factory manual was put together but I did have control over how the DW was put together and I am very happy with the end result no matter what the manual states.
Motorcycle design and materials have advanced a great deal (not always for the better) over the last 43 years since the 1981 GSX1100S Katana was made by Suzuki. However, it is interesting to see how the DW build compares with one Suzuki's latest bikes, the 2024 GSX-S1000. Suzuki Australia currently list the 2024 GSX-S1000 wet weight at 214 kg. Compared to the wet weight of 206 kg for the DW, looking at those numbers I'd have to say the project has been a success.
Four aluminium bolts arrived yesterday, watch this space.
Aluminium allen bolts by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Dry weight running tally = 181,603 grams.
Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 03-18-2024, 09:34 PM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Have swapped the rear tank mount titanium bolts for aluminium bolts today, the ally bolts are much lighter.
Ti tank bolts
Tank bolts Ti by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Ally tank bolts
Tank bolts ally by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Dry weight running tally = 181,595 grams.
I have found 9 other titanium bolts that could be replaced with aluminium bolts. My supplier is out of stock right now for M6 x 15 ally bolts so it could be a month before the bolts are swapped.
Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 03-18-2024, 09:32 PM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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The test rides to check on things have been going well so far however, one issue has surfaced that I was hoping wouldn't. I installed an engine oil temp gauge to monitor temps during the test rides and the oil is hitting 122.5 C on 29 C days with 80% humidity. To cope with Summer here the engine will need an oil cooler, adding weight is not what I wanted to do but frying an engine is even worse than adding weight so time to start making brackets and lines for the cooler. Looks like this thread still has a bit of life in it.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
Shin-Ken 1074
1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Originally posted by steve murdoch View PostWere you stuck in traffic or maybe having a lot of fun in the upper rev range?
That seems like a very high engine temperature for just a 29C day. I'm sure you get hotter days than that.
Just wondering if your temp gauge is properly calibrated?
Yes, Summer here is 40C plus with 95% humidity and when it's that humid air cooling is not as effective as at lower humidity levels.Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 03-20-2024, 08:17 PM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Originally posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post...could be a bit sportier than a stock 1135 EF engine.
Also, if you're only going 100 kph, you're not riding correctly. It's supposed to go 100 mph (160 kph).1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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Originally posted by pdqford View PostHaving not read this entire thread, but any chance the stator is Adding heat to the oil?Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 03-23-2024, 07:01 AM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Originally posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post
It could add some heat but not enough to spike the heat to over 130C. oil temp gauge was installed to monitor the oil temp however, even in mild weather conditions the oil is getting too hot. On a (brisk) test ride yesterday the oil temp got 132 C so it needs an oil cooler, as they were fitted originally by Suzuki. That is what testing is for, to evaluate and confirm and this test confirms a cooler is needed.GS1000G '81
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Originally posted by Lorenzo View Post
Those pared fins. Not much but they would've helped...
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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He’s in Australia. His whole bike is “down-under”.
Sorry. Someone had to say it.Rich
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Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ View PostHe’s in Australia. His whole bike is “down-under”.
Sorry. Someone had to say it.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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