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Originally posted by Big Block View PostBeautiful install. I am probably going to add one to my 1100 as well.Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 06-05-2024, 07:17 PM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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The oil cooler screen frame is back from the Welder and ready for a tidy-up before fitting the mesh screen. The frame looks like it should have holes or slots cut in it to lighten it however, the frame is made from 1.5 mm aluminium so is light enough. To drill holes or cut slots could weaken the frame and possibly allow it to distort if the screen takes a big enough hit.
Oil cooler 45 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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With the frame sanded and the aluminium mesh fitted the next job is prime and paint. The aluminium spacers for the frame and new oil cooler lower bracket have been painted and are now waiting for the screen to be done.
Oil cooler 46 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Got the mounting spacers finished and had a dry run to fit the oil cooler and screen today before the screen is painted. It all fits with a few mm to spare but a win is a win.
Oil cooler 47 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oil cooler 48 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Weight, or the lack of is the game plan for the build and it's the numbers that count. Have weighed a stock 1985 GSX1135 EF oil cooler, banjos bolts, lines and mounting bracket for a total of 1,273 grams. It will be interesting to compare the stock cooler weight to the DIY oil cooler for the DW and of course to keep it apples to apples, will weigh it minus the rock screen for the first weigh in.
So much steel in the OEM cooler.
Oil cooler 50 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oil cooler 52 by Max Mutarn, on FlickrBadgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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I put the DIY oil cooler on the scales today and it weighed 689 g compared to the OEM oil cooler at 1,273 g. With the end result being almost half the weight of the OEM cooler it was worth the effort.
Now that the cooler vs cooler weigh in is done, it's time for the rock screen and what that adds to the build. An extra 275 g for the screen bringing the total weight of the DIY cooler and rock screen to 964 grams.
Running tally = 183,020 grams.
Oil cooler 53 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oilcooler 54 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oil cooler 54 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
oil cooler 55 by Max Mutarn, on FlickrLast edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 06-10-2024, 04:57 AM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Oil cooler and screen installed, test ride tomorrow.
Oil cooler 56 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oilcooler 58 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oil cooler 57 by Max Mutarn, on FlickrBadgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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The test ride on the highway today with the new oil cooler went well and the oil temp gauge stayed steady on 98 Celsius, a bit lower than the 139 Celsius it was showing without the cooler riding on the same road. The next test ride will be around town to see how it goes with stop start traffic and slower speeds.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Originally posted by Lorenzo View PostWhat oil viscosity are you using?Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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A few more test rides and things are looking good, the minor oil leaks are now fixed and the engine oil temps are much lower now that a cooler has been fitted. Test riding has shown the oil cooler position and stone guard are crushing the speedo cable on left lock and the cooler looks over sized and a bit industrial. I decided to swap the cooler for the OEM 1150 cooler and delete the stone guard.
Using the OEM 1150 cooler has created an issue regarding the oil cooler position and air flow. The stock 1150 cooler was designed to operate behind a 16" front wheel and the DW is fitted with an 18" front wheel and that 2" variation has reduced the air gap between the front guard and the cowl. The result of this is the lower section of the cooler is now behind the front guard and not in an ideal position for clear air flow as it would be if fitted to a stock 1150.
The 1150 cooler is in a good position to allow full steering lock and clear the brake lines and speedo cable so I'd rather not raise the cooler using longer oil lines and create problems with steering and cable clearance. As an experiment I have made a deflector from 1mm aluminum sheet and installed it under the cowl to deflect the air flow between the guard and cowl downwards towards the cooler. Did a 120km test ride yesterday and with the deflector angle set at 45 degrees the oil temp was stable at 93.9 Celsius. So far so good.
I'll do a few more test rides and check which angle works best for temperature management and once that is sorted the deflector can be painted.
The deflector is attached using the bolts holding the cowl fins so I only need to add the defector weight to the running tally.
Oil cooler 60 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Subtract the DIY cooler and screen weight, add the OEM cooler and deflector weight.
Running tally = 183,058 grams.Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 06-26-2024, 08:24 PM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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Originally posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View PostAs an experiment I have made a deflector from 1mm aluminum sheet and installed it under the cowl to deflect the air flow between the guard and cowl downwards towards the cooler. Did a 120km test ride yesterday and with the deflector angle set at 45 degrees the oil temp was stable at 93.9 Celsius. So far so good.
I'll do a few more test rides and check which angle works best for temperature management and once that is sorted the deflector can be painted.
And I never even considered 'airflow' until 2 minutes ago, when I got on my knees in front of the bike and saw that visually, at least, the fender on the 19" wheel completely blocks the cooler. On my bike at least, I think just getting the oil on a detour out of the crankcase cooled it more than the wind blowing through the cooler.
Just my 2 cents. Or 2 grams?1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
But have you test ridden it without any 'deflectors'? As visually blocked as the OEM 1150 cooler appears to be, you may find it still does a completely adequate job of lowering temps. On my 11EZ, the temps went from near 300f to barely over 200, even when I have my winter 'thermostat' (cardboard cover) installed over the OEM 1150 Suzuki cooler.
And I never even considered 'airflow' until 2 minutes ago, when I got on my knees in front of the bike and saw that visually, at least, the fender on the 19" wheel completely blocks the cooler. On my bike at least, I think just getting the oil on a detour out of the crankcase cooled it more than the wind blowing through the cooler.
Just my 2 cents. Or 2 grams?
You could be correct about not needing the deflector, I'll do a test in Summer with and without the deflector to see if there is any difference.
Oil cooler 61 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oil cooler 62 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
Oil cooler 63 by Max Mutarn, on FlickrLast edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 06-27-2024, 04:59 AM.Badgezz, we don need noh stinkin' badgezz!
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1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.
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