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    #46
    Gotta keep my priorities straight. My granddaughter has been bugging me to get her 4 wheeler running so that's exactly what I did after the engine removal.

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    1977 GS750
    1978 GS750
    1979 GS750L
    1980 GS550e
    1978 KZ1000
    1975 Honda XL350 K1

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      #47
      Originally posted by rphillips View Post
      Read about lifting the frame off the eng. from laying on the side several times. I've not tried it, I've always had somebody around and we just slid the eng. out the side... Seems you've got it figured out, Keep it up.
      It's the only way to go IMHO, as long as it's just a frame and engine. I would not have attempted it with the front and back components still attached. I wanted to try and not scratch any of the work I'd already done to the engine. Doing it this way, I don't think any part of the frame touched any part of the engine during the removal process.
      Last edited by Bobbys 94; 02-24-2024, 01:03 PM.
      1977 GS750
      1978 GS750
      1979 GS750L
      1980 GS550e
      1978 KZ1000
      1975 Honda XL350 K1

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        #48
        I may be on to something here. Still trying to figure out what direction I want to go with this project before I take all components to powder coat. What do ya think about this route??

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        1977 GS750
        1978 GS750
        1979 GS750L
        1980 GS550e
        1978 KZ1000
        1975 Honda XL350 K1

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          #49
          No doubt, the bare frame, no front or rear parts got to be very easily lifted off. Glad it worked well for you. Glad you got your priorities straight too, granddaughters 4 wheeler got to come first... Same with paint, priorities again, if granddaughter wants granddads bike pink,,,, I don't see a question. For me "I" like a nice OEM color, Yours seems to be a "79" OEM color, (Pure Red) "79" were Pure Red and Lovelock Maroon. "78" colors were Burgundy or Black Bluing (actually dark blue), and the "77" colors Gypsi Red and Potomic Blue. My opinion, for these first gen. GS750's the "77" colors were by far the best. I'm betting I'm pretty near the bottom of that priority list... If not, I should be.... Keep it up..., looking good.
          1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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            #50
            Originally posted by rphillips View Post
            No doubt, the bare frame, no front or rear parts got to be very easily lifted off. Glad it worked well for you. Glad you got your priorities straight too, granddaughters 4 wheeler got to come first... Same with paint, priorities again, if granddaughter wants granddads bike pink,,,, I don't see a question. For me "I" like a nice OEM color, Yours seems to be a "79" OEM color, (Pure Red) "79" were Pure Red and Lovelock Maroon. "78" colors were Burgundy or Black Bluing (actually dark blue), and the "77" colors Gypsi Red and Potomic Blue. My opinion, for these first gen. GS750's the "77" colors were by far the best. I'm betting I'm pretty near the bottom of that priority list... If not, I should be.... Keep it up..., looking good.
            Some variation of Black is at the top of the list.

            Having completed the initial teardown I've come to the conclusion that, my frame has had a lil water (condensation) trapped inside for a very long time....I live in Texas and so did this GS for the last 40 or so years. High humidity Always. About 1 to 2 oz's dripped out of the top rear tubes that are just crimped on the back end. Upon further investigation I had more slowly seeping out of other small spots on the frame. I've attached a pic of the swingarm. Notice the rust/corrosion on the top. I'm thinking the inside is probably as corroded if not more. It looks like hammer marks but is actually what it looked like after I removed the top rust layer with a wire brush.
            I've found that on All of my machines, "If you don't keep them in a climate controlled environment or ride them often, they get wet, inside and out"
            I have not noticed any weep holes so I'm guessing no one has them. Note: At my place a weep hole would only last a day or so before a dobber filled it.

            Swingarm at the least will be donated to me by my other GS.

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            Last edited by Bobbys 94; 02-24-2024, 06:48 PM.
            1977 GS750
            1978 GS750
            1979 GS750L
            1980 GS550e
            1978 KZ1000
            1975 Honda XL350 K1

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              #51
              What are you going to do?

              I've had good success with soaking rusty parts in phosphoric acid. Kleen Strip Etch and Prep, as sold by Home Depot is a good option. You could fill up a plastic garbage can, dump in a 2-3 of gallons, fill with water, and drop in the frame. After a week the frame will be clean. As long as the metal erosion from rust isn't too bad, that may do it...
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

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              Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

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              KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                #52
                Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                What are you going to do?

                I've had good success with soaking rusty parts in phosphoric acid. Kleen Strip Etch and Prep, as sold by Home Depot is a good option. You could fill up a plastic garbage can, dump in a 2-3 of gallons, fill with water, and drop in the frame. After a week the frame will be clean. As long as the metal erosion from rust isn't too bad, that may do it...
                Ed, the frame will be powder coated, so it will be blasted and baked at 420 degrees for 30 minutes prior to the powder process which will then bake for approx. 25 minutes at 420 after powder. What I'm concerned with is "What damage has already been done to the inside of the tubes of the frame"
                Last edited by Bobbys 94; 02-24-2024, 06:40 PM.
                1977 GS750
                1978 GS750
                1979 GS750L
                1980 GS550e
                1978 KZ1000
                1975 Honda XL350 K1

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                  What are you going to do?

                  I've had good success with soaking rusty parts in phosphoric acid. Kleen Strip Etch and Prep, as sold by Home Depot is a good option. You could fill up a plastic garbage can, dump in a 2-3 of gallons, fill with water, and drop in the frame. After a week the frame will be clean. As long as the metal erosion from rust isn't too bad, that may do it...
                  This is what I was talking about on the corrosion that could be coming from within the tubes of the frame. The pic shows where the right rear passenger peg bracket would have been welded to the tube. As you can see the corrosion is for the most part coming from the inside. I've decided that this frame is Junk just like the 4 carburetors were. I have a really nice donor 1979 GS750L with a perfect frame and engine. Many mods will have to be done to the L frame to convert it to the 1978 GS750 frame but I'm up for the task.

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                  1977 GS750
                  1978 GS750
                  1979 GS750L
                  1980 GS550e
                  1978 KZ1000
                  1975 Honda XL350 K1

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                    #54
                    This is the donor GS750L that I picked up a couple weeks ago. All I've done so far to this is I sprayed about a half gallon of WD40 over the past few weeks and pressure washed it. From the looks of it I do not believe any of the fasteners have been touched sense the factory assembled it in 1979.

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                    1977 GS750
                    1978 GS750
                    1979 GS750L
                    1980 GS550e
                    1978 KZ1000
                    1975 Honda XL350 K1

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                      #55
                      Close up of the front wheel shows how pristine it all is.

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                      1977 GS750
                      1978 GS750
                      1979 GS750L
                      1980 GS550e
                      1978 KZ1000
                      1975 Honda XL350 K1

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                        #56
                        Sitting in the corner just waiting on a frame.

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                        1977 GS750
                        1978 GS750
                        1979 GS750L
                        1980 GS550e
                        1978 KZ1000
                        1975 Honda XL350 K1

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                          #57
                          This is close up of the donor bike engine and like I said, I've done nothing other than clean it a little.

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                          1977 GS750
                          1978 GS750
                          1979 GS750L
                          1980 GS550e
                          1978 KZ1000
                          1975 Honda XL350 K1

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                            #58
                            Decided to go with the Delkevic SS header system on this project. Haven't decided on a silencer as of yet. My 8 yr old grandson taped and cut out the letters on the side cover before painting.

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                            1977 GS750
                            1978 GS750
                            1979 GS750L
                            1980 GS550e
                            1978 KZ1000
                            1975 Honda XL350 K1

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                              #59
                              Pretty dang slick and talented 8 yr. old grandson to do that. You dang sure ought'a be proud
                              1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Bobbys 94 View Post
                                My 8 yr old grandson taped and cut out the letters on the side cover before painting.

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                                DOHC Suzuki etc? That's some third-grader you've got there!
                                1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                                2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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