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    Originally posted by Leigh View Post
    I give this thread one and a half thumbs up!
    Smooth move, Magoo.

    Pete, you'll be right with the honing, I've done it before on an old Hemi I rebuilt.
    I got a 3 stone hone. The stones were about 6-8mm wide and about 60mm long I guess (from a hazy memory).
    I just ran them up and down a couple of times then checked the bore.
    You can't stuff it up unless you keep going without checking the bore after a couple of passes.


    That compressor looks like mine. Small Chinese unit with generic branding.
    Mine is a Spear & Jackson. Odd that a shovel and spade manufacturer "makes" compressors.
    Hehe.
    The gun I bought from Bunnings is a Low Pressure High Volume kit. It has both pots on it so you can go with pressure or gravity feed.
    I used the gravity pot.

    I couldn't find it in their catalogue but it's the one you need.
    Low Pressure is the key phrase here.
    Awesome stuff... one and a half thumbs... haha

    Honing's all sorted now which is just all fine and dandy. Wonder how I'd go holding a drill right handed without a thumb? Next injury me thinks... haha

    I'll wait and see what's in the spray pack then decide if I need another gun or anything, but I think the pack is supposed to be a touch up gun and a big gun or something, not 100% sure yet. Compressor full price was $239, so I saved $40 and got a free hose even if the gun pack is crap.
    1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
    1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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    450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

    Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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      Good score on the air gear.
      The spray kit sounds similar to the one I got.

      Just do what I did.
      Practice on the shed wall, paint the bike, decide it looks crap and rope your spraypainter mate in.
      Easy.

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        Pete,

        The bottom part of the puller screws onto the fine thread of the actual rotor. The centre bolt then screws through that onto the end of the crank.

        Not sure if it is the same as a 450 though.

        I just screw the bolt end up tight. Give it a tap, screw again, tap again etc, so there is not a lot of hammering of the crank.

        Ken

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          Originally posted by Leigh View Post
          Good score on the air gear.
          The spray kit sounds similar to the one I got.

          Just do what I did.
          Practice on the shed wall, paint the bike, decide it looks crap and rope your spraypainter mate in.
          Easy.
          Cheers Leigh, it was just priced too well to pass up. I just hope it all works ok.

          Spraypainter mate... well... I gotta find me one of them

          I'll probably end up painting the wife's car by mistake the way I'm going at the moment!

          Originally posted by KC1908 View Post
          Pete,

          The bottom part of the puller screws onto the fine thread of the actual rotor. The centre bolt then screws through that onto the end of the crank.

          Not sure if it is the same as a 450 though.

          I just screw the bolt end up tight. Give it a tap, screw again, tap again etc, so there is not a lot of hammering of the crank.

          Ken
          I get ya Ken.

          Unfortunately, even if it's the right fit, my blind following of the Haynes manual means it ain't gonna work because of the piece of metal wedged inside the thread on the end of the crank:



          Bit hard to tell from the pic's but it's there, so anything that needs to screw into the crank at the moment is a no go, which unfortunately includes the bolt I need to put back in there to secure the rotor, which is why I need to get it off.

          This is the second time the Haynes has let me down, but unfortunately I knew about this years ago but completely forgot about it until I went to put the bolt in. If I wasn't this far with assembly, I could've just taken the crank to a mechanic to get them to pull the rotor.
          1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
          1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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          450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

          Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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            Rightio... firstly, I got this from my dad for Christmas:



            Should come in handy at some point

            Next, got a pair of these from my wonderful wife for Christmas:



            They're Draggin Next Gen jeans, which is my first new bit of gear for when I finally get the 450 done.

            I also need to show you my cat getting into the Christmas spirit, and yes that is a little star on his head:



            He's looking mighty impressed there...

            So anyway, took my wife to the boxing day sales yesterday and started getting a sore throat, so looks like I'm crook now just in time for when I'm on holidays expecting to get lots done to the bike. Just can't win at the moment.

            But I did get the compressor out this morning and it works just like it should:



            And the house mate is also home on holidays, and he did me up a bigger slide hammer yesterday and he got stuck into it this morning seeing as I'm not really up for too much:



            The reason it's not on the axle in this pic is because...



            It's off!!!!!!!

            And got this pesky little piece of metal out too:



            Teach me for using a Haynes...
            1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
            1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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            450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

            Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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              The thread looks ok, but it's really tight getting the bolt in, so I'm going to have to look for a dye or whatever it is I need to clean the thread up properly.



              I now have the swingarm axle greased up again and back where it belongs:



              So, see how I'm feeling the rest of this week as to how much more I get done, but it would sure be nice to get the valves lapped, the cylinders and head on, and get the engine back in the frame.

              Would also be grand to knock over the case cover polishing so I can get them back on too.
              1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
              1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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              450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

              Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                If it's the same thing I had take it easy or it will bite you.Ask me how I know

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                  Yeah? Come on, 'fess up

                  I think it's just a head cold actually as my house mate and wife have both had it over the last week or so but so far I'd managed to avoid it... oh well.

                  Nothing quite so charming as sitting here with a lap full of tissues wishing my nose had a tap so I could turn it off.

                  On the plus side, they reckon we might have a sunny weekend this weekend... first time for weeks I think... good old Queensland weather, beautiful one day, p*ssing down for the next month...
                  1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                  1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                  450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                  Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                    Not what I had then,bout the only thing I didn't have was a runny nose.Aches,pains,a cough and very tired feeling.Was actually colder than normal.Three days off work,I don't do that often.

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                      Not good! That sounds more like what I had early this year that ended up in a chest infection and stopping smoking... guess you could say that was a good thing... sorta...
                      1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                      1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                      450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                      Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                        Stopping smoking is always a good thing.Then I never started so what do I know

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                          Yeah I must say I don't miss it now, and I can certainly smell and taste things much better (when I don't have a head cold anyway)...
                          1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                          1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                          450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                          Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                            Well I thought I was on a wild goose chase today looking for a tap and die to fix the crankshaft thread and the bolt up, but in the end I had a win!

                            Last public holiday here so not many places open.

                            Anyways, took a couple of quick snaps but must go pick the wife up from shopping, so will update soon with pic's.
                            1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                            1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                            450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                            Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                              Bugger. I just did an update and only hit Preview before navigating away instead of Submit... don't you hate that?

                              Anyway, long story short, got great help from Repco and found the bolt is 1.25 pitch, but their only kit was no good. Supercheap had the same kit, and Bunnings only went up to a M8.

                              Ducked down to Streets Auto Spares local to me and he had a M12 1.25 pitch tap in stock. Got a M12 50mm bolt from him also as the first 10mm of thread on the bolt is shagged. The bolt is 5mm too long, but I was dead set positive there was way more than 5mm clearance in the end of the crankshaft.

                              So, this:



                              in here:



                              let me do this:



                              Thread locker on the bolt, not on the rotor or crankshaft, and torqued up to 65 ft lb's as specified in the Clymer.

                              Then I committed a bit of a tidiness and got some bench space free so I can get the valves lapped.



                              And a side note here... my collection of rolls ready to mock up an exhaust:



                              I'm sure I'll get strange looks from the exhaust guys when I show up with a mock up, but if it gets the exhaust I want, then who cares right?

                              Anyways, that's it for now, let's see if I can't get some more done while I'm on holidays... don't hold your breath though!
                              1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                              1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                              450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                              Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                                WELL DONE Pete, glad you got the rotor off and all fixed and back together again. Looking forward to the rest of your project. Shouldn't be long and the engine will be back in the frame.

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