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    Originally posted by Macguyver View Post
    Wow Pete, everytime I check in on your thread there is something new! Great job on the ignitor, BTW.

    You should be able to use any brand caliper paint, they are usually $5-$6 a can. I would think the blackcote should work too since most paint is rated for 250 degrees anyway, and I can't see the calipers getting that hot unless you are mashing the brakes on constantly. Then again, it won't take you long to get from stoplight to stoplight will it?

    The bike is coming along great Pete, keep up the great work!
    Cheers Mac!

    The ignitor is far from proven beyond idle yet unfortunately, but I won't know until I get my exhaust sorted and try for that first 15 minute run again.

    I'm going to have to duck up to the local auto store and see what caliper paint they have. Normally they carry Septone (local brand) and 3M stuff, so surely one of those will have caliper paint!

    Thanks again Mac, I just wish I was as close to on the road as you are...
    1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
    1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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    450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

    Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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      I will try to find the link to where i bought my braided lines from, very cheap and lot of the guys here have used them.
      Unfortunately, over here the earls lines are very expensive in comparison.

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        Originally posted by landshark View Post
        I will try to find the link to where i bought my braided lines from, very cheap and lot of the guys here have used them.
        Unfortunately, over here the earls lines are very expensive in comparison.
        That'd be awesome.

        I saw a price somewhere for $64 a line, but I can't find where that was now...

        The other problem with Earls lines over here is that they won't get me past a safety certificate either I don't believe...
        1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
        1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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        450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

        Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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          First effort tonight was to get the sprocket cover off and check the thread in the top inspection plate hole:



          Saved myself $50 and some grief as I don't have a thread issue with the hole

          I tried the allen bolt from the bottom hole in the top hole and it threaded in just fine. Looked closely and there's slightly different markings on each allen bolt and the threads on both look good, so I just grabbed another one of the spares that was in the packet from Z1 and used it, and all good. No stripped thread issue after all

          I then ripped off the left control so I can glue the cable tie bits on. You can make them out blue tacked on in this pic:



          Then I pulled the instruments back off.



          The bulb in the tacho is blown, so that needs replacing, and I'm contemplating doing a LED replacement on all bulbs in there so I never have that problem again.

          I'll have to hunt down the details of the brightness of the LED's to replace them with, some of them get quite expensive.

          I also pulled the clutch lever off.

          I need to get the dremel out and smooth all the edges of the bits of metal I've made up for the choke adaptor and electrics tray, and then I can get started on preparing all the necessary bits for paint.

          I'll try to track some caliper paint down also.
          1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
          1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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          450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

          Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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            I got both my front lines shipped from the states or UK(cant remember) for AU$60 total.
            Cant find the link yet.

            Originally posted by pete View Post
            That'd be awesome.

            I saw a price somewhere for $64 a line, but I can't find where that was now...

            The other problem with Earls lines over here is that they won't get me past a safety certificate either I don't believe...

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              Got mine here http://cgi.ebay.ca/SUZUKI-CUSTOM-STA...item19c51bbebf Link to the single line.Have up to 4 line`kits`.Nice lines.

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                Wow they're both some good prices!

                I did find that HEL lines are just over at Brighton and even though they don't list my exact model, it seems their single lines are about $54 which isn't too bad.

                I've got to wait until the Mikes XS master cylinder gets here first anyway to see what sort of banjo I need etc.
                1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                  Originally posted by SVSooke View Post
                  Got mine here http://cgi.ebay.ca/SUZUKI-CUSTOM-STA...item19c51bbebf Link to the single line.Have up to 4 line`kits`.Nice lines.
                  Thats the same place that i used. I guess they came from Canada?
                  If you go to his store and buy a 2 line kit, specify your sizes and what banjo angles you need it will be cheaper for you.

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                    Had a good look at that listing, and the lines he uses are DOT and SAE approved, so that should be safe for a safety certificate.

                    Also, I only need the one line for the front of mine, so dirt cheap at $US21.95 and with the current Aussie dollar value, that's probably $AU20.00

                    Big question... what colour am I gonna paint my tank and mudguards and should I match the line colour to them? Plenty of time to think about that...

                    Unfortunately I haven't heard back from Boulevard Suzuki yet so I haven't actually ordered the caliper parts just yet.
                    1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                    1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                    450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                    Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                      If you find the right guy to do your roadworthy you shouldnt really need to worry about the lines being approved.

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                        True indeed, and I'll definitely have to look for the right guy, especially given my ignition situation...
                        1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                        1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                        450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                        Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                          Well, it's been too long since I got anything done. Long weekend on call and a few days off work mean no time on the bike... oh well.

                          I did get a couple of incredibly minor things done over the last couple of days, but really nothing I would class as progress.

                          Got the bits of cable tie glued onto the left control to stop it spinning round the 'bar:



                          They seemed to stick ok but I've got it back on the 'bar now to make sure they stick properly to the curved surfaces.

                          When I painted the study over Easter, I ripped down the white board that was screwed into the brick so I could reuse it in the garage.

                          Got it mounted the other night and scrawled a to do list of sorts.

                          Walked in tonight and realised how much mess I'd made and how little bench space I had left.



                          That's the white board up on the wall, and I also discovered a second desk lamp floating around that's now mounted up on the right there which has given me a 100% improvement on work bench lighting. If I could just move the one and only flouro in the garage I'd be laughin'.

                          My scrawled to do list on the white board, along with a fix list, buy list, options list, etc.



                          And I then committed a bit of a tidiness which has given me a much better working area:



                          I managed to get myself some 3M caliper paint the other day so I can do the front caliper and caliper bracket:



                          I'll need to stick them both in the BBQ again once they're painted as it says not to expose to solvents until they've been baked at 200 degrees celcius.

                          Then I cable tied a couple of bits of the main harness that I can secure, unfortunately most of it is waiting for me to get some electrical odds and ends sorted.



                          Before I can finish securing the rest of the main harness, I need to smooth all the edges of the electrics tray and get it mounted, extend the starter solenoid lead, and work out what I'm doing for ground leads.

                          And the last thing for tonight was to pull the carbs partly apart to get the diaphragm covers, float bowls, and the brackets off so I can start preparing them for paint.



                          I need to smooth the choke cable adaptor for the choke shaft before I can paint all those bits too.

                          Also, I haven't heard back from Boulevard Suzuki about my caliper parts yet even though I emailed my order through almost a week ago, not sure what's going on there.

                          My master cylinder is on its way from Mikes XS also, so it'll be here long before the caliper parts, although at least I need to paint them and stick 'em in the BBQ first.
                          1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                          1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                          450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                          Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                            Not a lot done tonight because I remembered I still have my wife's old PC sitting around doing nothing, so that's a perfect source for a 12v power supply to test the LED brightness with.

                            I realise I could do a voltage divider with my old laptop power supply, but that requires extra brain power to work out, and a ready to go 12v supply is so much easier.

                            So, my obsession with micro ATX mainboards and small form factor cases meant I lost quite a bit of time getting the power supply out. I did all the correct air flow assisting anal retentive cable management inside the case with round IDE cables, velcro wrapped around bundles of wire to minimise the mass, all that stuff, so it was a real PITA getting it out.

                            Anyway, out and on the bench:



                            And yep that's a jumper lead across two of the ATX connector pins there to force it to turn on. Forgot how to get it to turn on without being connected to a mainboard so had to Google the old trick.



                            Anyway, I at least got as far as dismantling the gauges again:



                            I had a quick go with 12v across the gauge backlights for the speedo and tacho, and amazingly enough both lights turned on. No idea why the tacho light wasn't working but it is now... typical

                            Oh well, come this far, so will keep going with replacing the bulbs with LED's.

                            Still no word from Boulevard Suzuki either as yet, but I'll be patient a bit longer.
                            1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                            1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                            450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                            Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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                              It looks like progress is sure and steady Pete, keep it up and you will be ready in no time!

                              You have to love 12V power supplies eh? I have one running my HHO torch, one I built into a custom speaker/in dash CD/radio/amplifier box I built, and a couple extra sitting around in dead computers for spares.

                              They are just too handy to throw out!

                              Great work Pete, I always enjoy checking in on your thread!

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                                Originally posted by Macguyver View Post
                                It looks like progress is sure and steady Pete, keep it up and you will be ready in no time!

                                You have to love 12V power supplies eh? I have one running my HHO torch, one I built into a custom speaker/in dash CD/radio/amplifier box I built, and a couple extra sitting around in dead computers for spares.

                                They are just too handy to throw out!

                                Great work Pete, I always enjoy checking in on your thread!
                                True indeed Mac! I always tend to keep old power supplies unless they die, but I did sacrifice a lot of old stuff about 4 years ago when we moved to this house, so I was lucky I'd replaced my wife's PC not too long back.

                                As to my progress, well it's going far too slow for my liking at the moment. I wanted to be on the road by the end of the year, but I can't see it happening...
                                1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                                1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                                450 Refresh thread: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...-GS450-Refresh

                                Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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