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    Built Thread: Hardtail '78 750 with floating seat

    For reference: Started as a ragged version of this:


    Closest to a before pic I have:


    And a bit more tear down:



    Engine out, go to pull the head off and this guy had some how survived the engine bright and garden hose.



    Head comes off and this piece of nest is sitting on the top of the jugs:



    Got the jugs off and found the culprits all the way down against the block:



    40K miles of build up, assuming the odo is true.



    An exhaust valve after scraping the big stuff off of it. Still a lot of scraping to do on the chambers. Exhaust valves took at lot of lapping.



    Pretty standard stuff:



    Various stages of clean:
    Last edited by Guest; 02-02-2011, 12:58 AM.

    #2
    Originally posted by verde View Post
    more to come...
    Looking fwd to your build. Nice photos !
    82 1100 EZ (red)

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      #3
      Setting the axle height and making the initial cuts.



      Top tubes hit the frame at the upper engine mounts and here.



      And enclose most of the factory axle plate to swing arm welds.



      Top tubes tacked in place:



      I wanted to retain the stock foot controls rather than make forward controls -- Keep it skinny for lane splitting and be able to stand up for speed bumps and such. Took some aggressive and careful notching. Don't worry, it received a gusset latter.(frame is upside down in this pic)



      Swing arm not welcome here anymore.



      Made the cross brace to transfer some of the force off of the middle of the vertical section of stock frame, but still leave my seat floating out by itself.



      Seat post



      I like to service my seat post, if you know what I mean.



      Some see the leg off a sit-up bench. I see a seat pan bender. (others may see a brown jack russel puppy)
      Last edited by Guest; 02-02-2011, 12:07 AM.

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        #4
        Auto parts store was out of black edge trim, so the only 'chrome' I added is gonna be hidden by leather.



        Some odds and ends, coil relocation bracket to hollow out the frame. Caliper brace extended using 3/4 square tube and drilled/notched to hook up to the center stand tab left available on the frame.



        (her cleavage is showing)




        Screw you and your half-assed work ethic, PO. I think they're called bullett connectors.



        Put the fender on a diet.



        Made this out of rebar:





        Painting will have to wait today. Damn coastal fog.



        Spent more on brazing rod for modifying the tank than I did on the tank. It's off a 60's john deer riding mower.
        One of the only three pieces to receive more than just self etching primer. Fan on and a space heater makes the bathroom a great curing room.
        Last edited by Guest; 02-02-2011, 12:12 AM.

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          #5
          My 'spoke' for my speedo.





          Temporary 'baffles.' More civil pipes are in the plans(currently my neighbors like the novelty of the crazy guy next door building bikes, and I'd like to keep it that way)



          Test ride time:









          Still to come:

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            #6
            thats nuts i enjoyed looking at all the pics! thanks for sharing... i had a question about your dirty valves... does running the bike clean all that crud off or does it just build it non-stop where it requires scraping?
            Originally posted by tkent02
            That's not a tree, that's a shrubbery. Now get to work on that old dirt bike
            John 3:16

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              #7
              Originally posted by bonanzadave View Post
              Looking fwd to your build. Nice photos !
              Thanks. Got lazy and missed some good photos, but had plenty to sift through and choose from anyway.
              Last edited by Guest; 02-02-2011, 12:26 AM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by GabrielGoes View Post
                i had a question about your dirty valves... does running the bike clean all that crud off or does it just build it non-stop where it requires scraping?
                No clue(as to on the face of the valve itself... I know the rest the crud will build up and the engine will need decarb regardless). First time doing valve work. That carbon build up is pretty tough and it was on the face of the ex valves in my case. The little black spots are microscopic pits you can only see by the color change. Took a lot of valve lapping to get them all out(missing some good pics here, maybe on another camera). If your valves are out of spec to the point of bad compression like mine were, I'd recommend lapping them after this experience.
                Last edited by Guest; 02-02-2011, 12:34 AM.

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                  #9
                  Wow! Genius design for the seat! Cool bike!

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                    #10
                    hot diggity~!

                    damn that's some smart work! If only you applied it in a more functional way than a chopper just busting balls, I like it regardless!

                    what did you use for the seat foam? Neoprene? And did you carve it to fit the curve in the seat pan or is it a flat piece that's adhered in that manner?

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                      #11
                      Bah! It's not really a chopper... sorta a bobber, but I even kept the front fender for now since this will see some puddles. I'm tired of eating my own rooster tail on my triumph. Let's not open the definition can of worms though...

                      Thanks for the comments

                      Originally posted by Flaming Chainsaws View Post
                      Wow! Genius design for the seat! Cool bike!
                      Thanks, I'm pretty stoked I pulled it off. Few other mounting options I played with, but that one was my favorite.


                      Yes, that's neoprene. Left over from my seat build on my triumph. 2 in thick and forced to conform as one piece. Gorilla glue is awesome for foam-to-pan bonding. Just got to use scrap pieces or other means to spread the load out from the clamps while you wait the 2 or so hours it needs. The savvy amongst us might recognize this tool from earlier.



                      Tapped thin piece of foam to the fender for the test ride as the fender is my 'bump stop.' Have since glued the bump stop foam on the underside of the seat and it will be under leather when all is said and done.
                      Last edited by Guest; 02-02-2011, 02:45 AM.

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                        #12
                        Ah crap!

                        Was cleaning up some stuff and found a copy of 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.' Flipped to one of two bookmarks in the whole thing and this is what it said.

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                          #13
                          Im interested in the test ride?
                          How does the bike run?
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                            #14
                            cool bike. It's very unique and well done. I love the seat and there is something really cool about your rear frame cross bracing. Can we get more pics of it? Particularly the front end? Are you running a headlight?? It almost looks like 2 turn signals where a light should be

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Octain View Post
                              Im interested in the test ride?
                              How does the bike run?
                              It's running amazing. Absolute blast to ride. Initial test run was cold blooded - 15 pilots, 125 mains, too low a needle setting. At 130 mains right now, and after a needle adjustment I believe I overshot on the pilots and need to bump down from the 20's I put in to 17.5's. That whole saga is over in the carb forum. Odd note though: Due to the airflow around the engine, it looks like the outer cylinders(1 & 4) are getting less air at speed than the inside ones are.


                              Originally posted by Tim Tom View Post
                              cool bike. It's very unique and well done. I love the seat and there is something really cool about your rear frame cross bracing. Can we get more pics of it? Particularly the front end? Are you running a headlight?? It almost looks like 2 turn signals where a light should be
                              The ass-end got all the attention -- I just pulled stuff off the front end and left it all ugly I loved how much just FRAME there was as I stripped the bike down, so that influenced putting the tank on top. Had to match it in the back and have spent way to much time looking at tube buggy stuff in the past, so those factors influenced the back.

                              Lights are just a pair of fog lights and I reused the gauge cluster mounting holes in the top tree. Wanted to mount them from the underside but couldn't get them pointed down far enough. Also couldn't be bothered with making yet another bracket at that point. When I couldn't paint on that really foggy day I made them into angry eyes.

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