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    82 gs650e

    I posted earlier about the GS650E that my son had bought to teach his wife to ride. He paid $200 for it not running but with the understanding that we would repair it for my daughter-in-law. The engine would turn, PO had wrapped the carbs in a garbage bag and we had to hunt through his barn to find the tank and seat. Luckily the seat has no tears. There was an old Windjammer on it with a badly welded, broken mount. It had fallen and damaged the front fender. The PO said that the only thing he knew wrong with it was a bad starter solenoid. He also said that it had been running when he sat it up about 2 years ago. (Why is it that they were always running 2 years ago?)
    The PO and I had worked for the same Freightliner dealer before I was disabled, and I trusted him as much as you can trust any PO. Not really a wise move on my part.
    Before we started any work, I searched the Internet and found this forum and BikeCliff's website. My son has had 3 Kawasakis and a Victory Vegas that we maintained together. I didn't find as much info on all of them put together as from GS Resources. This is a great site with some very knowledgeable members. The only one that even compared was his first bike a Ninja 250.
    With manual and wiring diagram in hand we started checking the wiring and electrical. PO had added a ground wire to the starter solenoid, but instead of grounding the solenoid body, it was connected to the output for the starter motor. I'm pretty sure this is what burned up the solenoid. I replaced with a Freightliner solenoid. It bolted right in place. Sorry about the bad picture quality. I'll try to get some better ones soon.



    The R/R had been replaced. The old one was still mounted with all wires cut and the new one was flopping loose inside the air box. The wires were twisted and taped. I soldered an heat shrinked all of these twisted connections and secured the R/R. At this point the starter would turn the engine over, but it would only fire when the starter button was released. We cleaned and tightened all connections. Removed and cleaned switches especially the kill switch. It would now fire, but very weak. Installed the coil relay mod and got excellent blue spark.
    Removed, soaked and cleaned carbs. Used torch tip cleaner to clean all jets and passages. Installed new o-rings and float valves. PO has put aftermarket kits in carbs at some point because main jets and pilot air jets are wrong for this application. Main jets are 110 and should be 97.5. Pilot air jets are 160 and should be 175. We replaced carb holder o-rings and 2 of the air box boots. The engine now runs and performs fine mid range and full throttle, but is too rich at idle. I'm pretty sure this is because of the pilot air jets, but these 175's seem very difficult to find. Carbs are only bench synched at this point until I locate all needed jets.
    As soon as she heard it run and saw my son and I ride it, my daughter-in-law wanted to learn to ride. When she didn't feel comfortable with it after a couple of days, they gave up and found her a 1983 Honda Shadow 500. I've ridden both bikes and the GS650 will run circles around the 500. The Shadow probably will be a better starting bike for her anyway. They decided to give me the GS for all the work I've done on it. So it's worked out good for all of us. She is scheduled to take the MSF safety course in our area this weekend.
    I haven't owned a motorcycle in over 23 years since before my oldest son was born. It probably wouldn't hurt for me to take the MSF course or a refresher course. My youngest son is helping me work on it now. He wants to learn to ride and take it to college this fall.
    There's still quite a bit of work to do. I'll keep this updated and hopefully add more pics. Can't buy anymore parts until next month. We have less than $400 in it now and it does run. Thanks for all the help guys.







    #2
    The 500 will likely be a better starter bike, the 650 is a great bike overall. As another GSR member once told me, "It's all the bike you'll ever need."

    Not to say it's all the bike you'll ever want, but it's definitely fast enough for most riders to get a big grin going. Myself included.

    Please do keep us updated on the progress of the bike, and BTW, we do love pictures!

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      #3
      Mac,
      I have been following the progress of your bike and love what you've done to it. I wish mine was shaft drive, but for the money(free to me) I can't complain. I agree that the 500 will be better for her to start. She already feels more comfortable on it because it sits lower, its lighter and she likes the foot position better.
      I've only been able to ride my 650 off road and on a small track as it's not strictly street legal yet. I'm a big guy at near 300lbs and it seems to have plenty of power for me.
      Maybe I'll make a list of the needed repairs and keep it updated. Hope to find my camera this weekend, so maybe more pics.
      Any input would be greatly appreciated.
      If anyone knows a supplier for the 175 pilot air jets for BS32SS carbs please let me know.

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        #4
        Found my camera

        Finally found my camera. Here are a few more pics.



        Here's the really bad weld for the Windjammer mounting bracket. Someone really shouldn't be allowed near a welder.



        A couple of pics of the Windjammer and damaged front fender. I don't think I'll reuse the Windjammer, but not sure.





        I'm using the headlight assembly from the Windjammer on the bike now. Wish the original parts were still around, but this works.



        This is a better picture of the starter solenoid. It normally sells for about $12 but I had this one in my toolbox. It bolts in the same place as the original and is not much larger. It works very well after removing and cleaning all the handlebar switches.

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          #5
          Looks like it's time for new chain and sprockets. Gotta put that on the list.



          The front master cylinder reservoir was cracked and leaking. Found this master cylinder on E'bay for $15. Both were 5/8(16mm)bore and dual caliper front brakes. It seems to work well so far. It also has an adjustable lever which helps with my stubby fingers.





          Last edited by Guest; 05-21-2011, 07:22 PM.

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            #6
            Wow, just wow. I've never welded in my life, but there is no way i'd leave a weld like that on something i put together.

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              #7
              I know it's one of the worst welding attempts I've ever seen. It will take quite a bit of clean up to look right again.

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                #8
                The rear brake pedal was sticking just enough to keep the brake light on. I removed the pedal and shaft. Then cleaned the shaft and pivot bore. Lots of rust in there. Lubed it up and put it back together. Works like a charm now.
                There was no horn on the motorcycle when we got it. I took this one from a non running 1982 Toyota MR2. It works well.


                Here's my list of things left to do and best place I found them.

                1. Proper carb main jets 97.5's (Jet's R Us)
                2. Proper carb pilot air jets 175's (still looking)
                3. Repair exhaust leaks (use Macguyver's method)
                4. Stainless steel brake lines (Z1)
                5. Tires (Motorcycle superstore)
                6. Chain and sprockets (Z1)
                7. Turn signals (Motorcycle superstore)
                8. Tachometer cable (Z1)
                9. Fork seals (Z1)
                10. Fabricate side covers
                11. Front brake pads

                Over the winter months I hope to strip the bike and repaint.

                Any input is greatly appreciated.
                Last edited by Guest; 05-25-2011, 02:50 PM. Reason: change list

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                  #9
                  Ordered parts from Z1

                  My son decided to order some parts for my father's day gift. I had contacted Chris @ Z1 about the # 175 pilot air jets. Rather than just tell me he didn't stock them or buy them elsewhere and mark them up, he searched until he found them. Then Chris e-mailed me all the other information about another store that had my parts. My hat's off to Z1 and Chris for very honest, straightforward business practices. I've been a professional mechanic for 30 years and worked for a Freightliner dealer for 12 before I was disabled. There are very few parts people in my experience who will go the extra mile like that.

                  My son ordered exhaust gaskets, tach cable, fork seals and sprockets for me. I will order the jets from the other source at the first of the month when my check comes in.

                  We will start repairing the exhaust tomorrow. O'reilly Auto Parts has the reducing adapters used by Mac in his exhaust repair. The part # is ROL548520. I will take and upload pictures as the repair proceeds.

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                    #10
                    Good work there Chuck, the bike is coming along nicely.
                    Nice to see someone who takes the information available seriously and doing the job properly, I have no doubt it is going to be really nice when it is done.

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