so a trade and a trade and another trade for...

[jdobrosky]

also, im ordering the service manuals for these bikes on friday. whats you guy's opinion. should i spring the 45 bucks apiece for the factory ones or would the clymer/haynes ones suffice?

[cowboyup3371]

Or do free from Basscliff's site (see link he gave you) and download the service manual

[GateKeeper]

also, im ordering the service manuals for these bikes on friday. whats you guy's opinion. should i spring the 45 bucks apiece for the factory ones or would the clymer/haynes ones suffice?

you didn't find a manual here for your bikes ?

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/

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[jdobrosky]

well i followed the link from basscliffs site. the bad part is i have no printer. or internet access in my garage. so i was looking for a paper copy of one. from what i understood, the haynes/clymer doens't have a very good electrical section, so if i ordered the electrical special book the price combined would be about 5 bucks more than if i ordered the factory one.

[jdobrosky]

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T is '80, X is '81.

One more test that will be easier, but not quite as definitive: what size is the rear wheel? The '80 850L came with a 17" wheel, later years had a 16".

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i just ran over to my garage to check the serial number. its x. its also not an 850. its a 1000. manufacture date of november of 80. so depending on the day, it may be exactly 7 years older than me

[jdobrosky]

and motoverse just confirmed it. ran the vin on there. 1981 gs1000l

[jdobrosky]

Quick Update:

so did a little bit of work on the 81 model yesterday. i wanted to find out about that starter problem. so i went to my garage with a positive attitude and right as i started working my mood changed faster than a menstruating teenage girl who cant get a date to the prom....

time for some math....

9 x 30 year old JIS type screws on magneto cover + Previous owner with IQ of a bag of wet garbage + his beat ass old tool set with regular #2 phillips = what?

if you guessed 9 stripped out magneto cover screws, congratulations. you are smarter than the previous owner.

so i began to drill out the bolts (i had already went back to my house and ordered replacements) and finally got the cover off after about an hour. i think my drill bits are dull...


and i found this:
question. #2: whats wrong with this picture?




if you guessed the idler gear assembly, you are correct. for those of you who are mechanically illiterate they are parts 1-3 on this diagram:

http://www.bikebandit.com/1981-suzuki-gs1000glx/o/m5986#sch270264

now i was really ****ed off and kinda wanted to break something. so i decided to walk away for a bit. well when i got back i decided to do some digging through the parts bin that came with the bikes, and sure enough, sitting in half a quart of oil with a ziplock bag ziptied to the top so it didnt spill were the missing parts. now im thinking sweeeeeeeeet! party! wooo!

put it back together and then i realized, ****. i cant test this, i had to drill the bolts out. so now its sitting there. back together less the cover. waiting 5-7 business days for the bolts. and i plan on going down in the morning every day to soak the exposed ends in oil.



more updates will follow as soon as work gets done. nothing further this weekend. i have custody of my son this weekend and i still have to get my taxes done. so probably through the week and next weekend.

[DanTheMan]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...some people should never, never, never touch anything resembling a mechanic's tool or any tool of any sort.
I think you've had a brush with either the the King, Queen or Joker of the POs!

[jdobrosky]

I think you've had a brush with either the the King, Queen or Joker of the POs!

i think this guy was all 3 rollind into one!

[razor02097]

Wow! You essentially got 2 project bikes for a case of beer and $50... nice

Good luck with the project

[jdobrosky]

yeah. and the one really i wouldnt call the 81 a project. if i actually worked on it for more than half an hour a day on the damn thing it would be together by now. but oh well. i really just need to get carbs and a left rear turnsignal, then it will be ready to roll on down the highway

[jdobrosky]

ok, so i decided to dig a little deeper into the started problem on the 81. Instead of typing an f'n story book and taking a bumch of pictures this was quicker. please watch this and tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkAvZteq_kM&feature=youtu.be

[SVSooke]

Your starter clutch is not working,The silver thing between the stator and starter gear.

[Nessism]

Hardware stores sell bolts. No need to wait unless you want to.

Please don't touch the exhaust bolts until you soak them in PB Blaster and heat them up with a propane torch a couple of times. Use a 1/4" ratchet handle and don't force the bolts or they will break off like your intake boot bolts. Consider this your warning. Never force screws on these bikes or you will pay the price. Also, in case you didn't know, an impact driver will help remove those case screws. Even stripped ones can be removed this way as long as the head isn't completely gone.

Oh, and please check the Newbie Mistakes thread and carb rebuild tutorial linked in my signature. Best to be prepared and learn from the mistakes of others (like me)...

Good luck

[jdobrosky]

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Good luck

thanks for the info nessism. i've been wrenchin on other things for a while to know that 30 year old rusty bolts have a tendency to want to stay put. so for now, i have no intention on taking the exhaust off. i tried to use the impact driver on the case screws but the heads of the screws were so bad that it just spun and stripped it more. on some of them it looked as if the guy started to drill them out and just stopped. and that noobie mistakes thread makes me chuckle, only because ive done alot of that stuff in the past. i especially like the term "hamfisting" i laugh everytime i think about it now. ive been looking at both carb rebuilds, for when i plan on doing them. first i have to get the carbs for the 81 1000. then rebuild them. and once the 81 is running, im going to start restoring the 79.


and you wanna know a product thats 10 times better than pb blaster? BG In-Force. pb blaster claims that it will eat through a Styrofoam cup in 10 seconds. well the in force stuff will do it in about 3 and a half. its fawkin' potent. i used to get it for free from work, so i had about 5 cans sitting in my garage. but now im down to 2. it sucks, but i still know a guy that might be able to get it for me.


and as far as running to the hardware store to get bolts, i wanted to do that, but i work afternoon shift (3pm-11pm) so my sleep pattern is really different than most peoples. so i do alot of my shopping online, and when i need to go grocery shopping, i just go to walmart after work because its open 24 hours. so i just orderd them off of flatout for ease of availability, that way i dont need to wake up earlier than what i normally do just to run to get bolts.