GS1000L grease help

[Guest]

Just looking for a little info on the various greases and goos that I see on my bike. I am a total newbie taking apart my GS1000L, 1979. I took apart the wheels front and rear and noticed different types of coloured stuff oozing in and out of various parts. Can anyone shed some light on what I would need to buy in order to clean and re-grease (properly) the following things:

1)in the middle of the rim of the tire, there is a rod that pulls out and holds all the various parts, there is a blackish grease that is there? I want to clean the rod and put new grease on it. What kind of grease should I put to lubricate the rod?

2)once the rod is out, some roundish pieces fall out as well as the brake calliper supper thtingy. they also have the black grease...I'm presuming it is the same right?

3)once I take off the chain and remove the spikey gear thing attached to the rim to reveal the "rubber cushings", there is a small round piece which seems to have yellow grease...I'm presuming this is different than the black stuff.

3) lastly, once the rod and those inner pieces are lubricated, I want to clean the chain and relube. I was going to use a silicon lube to clean the chain but after it is clean, what would be the best way to relubricate it...It is a linked chain with the "O" rings in between the links.

Everyone loves picts so here are a few of what I am talking about.


yellow guck photos:




dirty chain:


different parts on the rod:



and there are some parts in this thing as well:



photo of the bike for fun:

ok thanks in advance:

[Steve]

I just LOVE all your technical terminology.

1)in the middle of the rim of the tire, there is a rod that pulls out and holds all the various parts, there is a blackish grease that is there? I want to clean the rod and put new grease on it. What kind of grease should I put to lubricate the rod?

That "rod" is your axle. It needs no grease. Clean it, put it back in.

2)once the rod is out, some roundish pieces fall out as well as the brake calliper supper thtingy. they also have the black grease...I'm presuming it is the same right?

Since I don't understand your technical terms, I am going to pass on this one.
I can guess on the "calliper", but the "supper thtingy" has me stumped.

3)once I take off the chain and remove the spikey gear thing attached to the rim to reveal the "rubber cushings", there is a small round piece which seems to have yellow grease...I'm presuming this is different than the black stuff.

That "spikey gear thing" is your sprocket.

The round thing appears to be your wheel bearing. It is lubed from the factory, you can not add to it. If it fails, replace it.

3) lastly, once the rod and those inner pieces are lubricated, I want to clean the chain and relube. I was going to use a silicon lube to clean the chain but after it is clean, what would be the best way to relubricate it...It is a linked chain with the "O" rings in between the links.

Strange technical terms and TWO items #3.
If you have no idea how old the chain is, or how many miles are on it, I would suggest getting a new chain and BOTH sprockets (you know, those "spikey gear things").

I will offer no advice on how to care for a chain, as I have not run a chain-driven bike since 1979.

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[silverramsrt]

brake calliper supper thtingy=brake caliper bracket

I think.

[speedorchid]

ha ha ha, this had me laughing out loud. I'm very new as you can read....

ok The rod has all kinds of grease on it when I pulled it out...I'll clean it but....Where did it all come from? What do I need to grease up? What type of grease do I need to use?

When I took the wheel off, 2 circle spacers fell out(one was like an over sized washer and the other had a mushroom type shape to it) they seem to be solid metal and different from the wheel bearings. I'm presuming that they can be cleaned and don't need any grease between them and the bearing parts inside the wheel. right?

What parts do I need to grease then? I will take a picture tomorrow to show you the parts that I am talking about so clearly...ha ha

Thanks as always.


also.....the "brake calliper supper thtingy" was supposed to say the "brake calliper support thing" as corrected it was in fact the "brake calliper bracket"

[JimmyR]

Yeah the mushroom shaped spacer and the other spacer need no grease. Neither does the calliper bracket. Definitely don't get grease on the calliper! The main thing is to clean everything as well as you can. Grease does indeed leak but a lot of the stuff you see as "grease" is probably just road dirt mixed with chain lube and crap.

If you look at either a service manual or a fische diagram (as can be found online at places like Bike Bandit) you will find alternative technical terms that Suzuki chose.

[speedorchid]

Yeah the mushroom shaped spacer and the other spacer need no grease. Neither does the calliper bracket. Definitely don't get grease on the calliper! The main thing is to clean everything as well as you can. Grease does indeed leak but a lot of the stuff you see as "grease" is probably just road dirt mixed with chain lube and crap.

If you look at either a service manual or a fische diagram (as can be found online at places like Bike Bandit) you will find alternative technical terms that Suzuki chose.

Ok....so I will basically clean the whole thing and won't re-grease. maybe someone put it around the axel so it would go into the hole with ease...

any ideas about the chain oil/lubrication?

[Spyder]

*Quote*-"you will find alternative technical terms that Suzuki chose."

Oh my god you guys have to stop ! ! ! My sides hurt!
I love this guy! Stick around and read a lot. You will be speaking "GS" in no time...

"Spikey gear thingy", thats too much! Keep on asking questions on the right forum heading here, and you can't go wrong, everybody here loves to help...
And keep posting progress...

[Spyder]

OH! sorry, you can buy chain lube just about anywhere, auto parts store, hardware store and the like...

[speedorchid]

chain cleaning

ok, so I found the manual and did a little research, and I think I've found the solution to be the following in regards to cleaning and relubing the chain.

-The chain O rings have their own grease sealed inside.
-the wrong type of lubrication(gasoline, trichlene etc.) can break down the o-rings and then you have big problems

so......

-clean the chain with Kerosene(petroleum product)
-after washing it...(i'm presuming with regular soap and water), let it dry completely
-oil the links with a heavy oil (manual says 40-50 weight)....I believe this is just regular motorcycle oil that you would put into the engine. This is simply to stop the chain from rusting.

DO NOT:
-use oil sold as drive chain oil as they contain additives and solvents that could damage the o-rings which will wreck the chain.

if the chain is broken, replace with:
DAIDO DID630YL or TAKASAGO RK630GSO

any thoughts?

[DannyMotor]

First thing... any "black oil" is road grime mixed with chain grease or brake dust and grease that came off the bike during its first 30 years in service... clean the ba-Jesus out of it.

Second... use a good wheel bearing grease in the cush drive hub (the thingy with the sprocket bolted to it), It moves and pivots on that tapered bushing.

As for the chain, clean it with karosene and apply a heavy (no fling) motorcycle chain lube for o-ring chains... Yamalube and a few others make them. Readilly availlable at any dealer.