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    #46
    Day 57 Exhaust Mufflers and Headers Off

    So with the exhaust bolts firmly behind me I now get to take off the complete exhaust system. Oh my what a mess. They are in quite poor shape. Lots of rust powder poured out from the header pipes and both mufflers have rattling baffles and holes in their skins.

    Can these be refurbished? I know replacements are not available. So what next?

    Here's the blog entry: http://suzukigs1100.blogspot.co.uk/2...ed-day-57.html











    Not sure I can even salvage the headers as they are welded on to the mufflers.
    Richard
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    GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
    GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
    GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
    GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
    Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
    Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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      #47
      They look too far gone to me. If you want original you'll have to look to the US (I bet you'll never find one in the UK). Here's one:

      Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 83 SUZUKI GS1100 GS 1100 GS1100G EXHAUST, MUFFLERS #E2 at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.


      Failing that it'll be a Motad or similar, 4-1 for about £350.
      79 GS1000S
      79 GS1000S (another one)
      80 GSX750
      80 GS550
      80 CB650 cafe racer
      75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
      75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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        #48
        Hampshire - actually it's not THAT expensive. I will set up an Ebay search alert I think. I was really hoping someone might be able to cut them open, derust, repair baffles and then put back together. But that would probably cost more than the US set. Then there is the re-chroming. Initial enquiries show this would be in the region of £500 plus. But the US ones needed re-chroming too. This is getting very costly.
        Last edited by londonboards; 10-18-2012, 10:21 AM.
        Richard
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        GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
        GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
        GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
        GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
        Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
        Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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          #49
          Day 57 Progress

          Exhausts are off, foot pegs, mirrors, clutch cable and more.

          See blog entries: Day 57 Progress


















          Richard
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          GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
          GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
          GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
          GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
          Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
          Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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            #50
            Workspace

            I need to do something to make some space in the garage. I have to bring the project inside now for the winter. Any ideas?


            I am boxing up all the part and putting them away for now.


            Richard
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            GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
            GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
            GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
            GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
            Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
            Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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              #51
              Day 59 Instrument Removal

              Took the instruments off at last. Something was living inside my speedo and it has deposited stuff all over, including I believe on the glass. So this leads me to think I will not need to replace the glass (thanks Hampshire). I still have to get the glass off by removing the retaining band, so I will be able to check it then. But the glass has to come off in any case as I have to change the facias (which will be supplied by: will.barber@bentley.co.uk). I need to have one to show MPH which means I need to change them both. Oh the joy, I have to remove both glasses!

              See the daily blog entry: GS1100 Blog











              Anyone get any other tricks to remove the glass?

              Greetings
              Richard
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              GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
              GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
              GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
              GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
              Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
              Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                #52
                My Hartlepool Radiators company have indicated that they would be willing to do it in the same style of operation that they did on the petrol tank so I may send them one of the sides to get a quote.
                Richard
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                GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by londonboards View Post
                  Taking a look at the air suspension today. I always thought it was original equipment and it does carry a Suzuki sticker. It's just that I have not seen any other GS1100 G examples with this type of suspension:

                  Link to the blog: Restoration Blog





                  Not sure if I need to get these refurbished or if I should just change them out for a new pair.

                  Greetings
                  Hi,
                  Just caught up on your project - great project! Good job on the header bolts too - lots of trouble saved there.

                  These are Suzuki GS 1100GK air shocks. About $500 new to replace IIRC. If I were you, I'd try to clean them up a bit, test 'em and use if possible.

                  Good luck with the project. I know it seems big, but the benefit is a beautiful, road worthy and dependable ride that has sentimental value and real value too.

                  Scott
                  Scott
                  1982 GS1000S #1 bought in 84, #2 gone, #3 in hibernation
                  1983 GS1100ES #1 (bought in 03, July 09 BOM, 65k traded in 17), #2 New daily rider, #3 in hibernation
                  1982 GS1100E Red #1 - Original owner, sold in 93, #2 (Red) sold in 20 to Andy B
                  2018 Gold Wing Tour - new out of the crate :) 1st non-Suzuki in 38 years
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                    #54
                    Scott - thanks for that. They do appear to be in good condition and I have found a guy in the UK here who can strip them down, put new seals in and rechrome. A bit expensive but I will probably do it anyway.

                    You don't happen to know the difference in the GS1100 G models do you? I have on my GS main engine and barrells painted black and it was originally like that but I see the same model with completely bare metal engines that also look original.

                    Greetings
                    Richard
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                    GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                    GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                    GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                    GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                    Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                    Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                      #55
                      Day 60 Front Brake Reservoir Problem - Screw Stripped

                      I was doing so well getting the exhaust bolts out without a problem now I have my first stripped screw. To make matters worse it is a flush sitting screw so I can't hacksaw a groove into it.

                      Any ideas?

                      See the blog entry here: Blog (100s of hi res photos)







                      Richard
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                      GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                      GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                      Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                        #56
                        A sharp easy out will help.

                        Get the right drill bit for the easy out and just drill in enough to make it bite then try to unscrew.
                        In that thread size you may not get one small enough so see what they have.

                        Another option is a reverse bit, it loosens the screw as you drill and may knock it loose.

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                          #57
                          Bevo - You will have to educate us poor people on the wrong side of the Atlantic as to what is a: Sharp Easy Out.

                          I don't know what it is.

                          Greetings
                          Richard
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                          GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                          GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                          GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                          GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                          Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                          Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                            #58
                            Day 63 Progress Report

                            I am keeping up the momentum on this project - fear not. Today I continued to remove the headlamp shell, the handlebar switchgear, the instruments, wiring routing and other such stuff.

                            Check out the blog here: GS11200 Blog









                            This last pic looks like someone has really gone to town on the stator wire connections. Does this taping and soldering (I can't pull them apart - so I will have to snip them) look OEM?

                            Greetings
                            Last edited by londonboards; 10-20-2012, 02:39 PM.
                            Richard
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                            GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                            GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                            GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                            GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                            Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                            Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                              #59
                              That'll be a replacement non OE reg/rec. They have three yellow wires, a red and a black.
                              Here are the connections FYI:
                              Red-Red
                              Black-Chassis/ground
                              Yellow-Yellow
                              Yellow-White with blue tracer
                              Yellow-white with red tracer

                              The green + yellow wire on the left is the feed from the start button to the solenoid.
                              Not sure what the other two are with the white connector block but I don't think they're related to the charge system
                              Last edited by Guest; 10-21-2012, 02:33 PM.

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                                #60
                                This Forum is truly amazing. Just can't imagine there is a guy somewhere on the planet who has experienced the exact same issue that I have on a piece of equipment that is 29 years old. Brilliant. And thanks for that post. Really appreciate it.

                                Greetings
                                Richard
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                                GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                                GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                                GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                                GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                                Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                                Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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