1982 GS650E slowwww project

[spyug]

(assuming I don't find any further issues like tearing a bowl gasket).

That's nothing to worry about as you can easily fabricate ( or bodge as our Limey brothers & sisters say) your own. Most autostores sell gasket paper and for about $12 you'll have enough to make carb gaskets 'til the turn of the next century

Take the bowl, trace around it, cut it out, cut the holes (use the old gasket as a pattern) and you're good to go. To make them easier to come off next time ( and thus make them reuseable) smear axle grease on both sides and rub it in. An old mechanic's trick that works on all paper gaskets.

With the carb rebuild just take your time and be thorough. You do have carb dip I hope ( about $30 a gallon, er 4 litres but reuseable) as spray cleaner will just not cut it. The carb bodies and jets do need a 24 hour soaking to come clean so don't rush that.

When you are ready to synch them let me know and I'll bring down the trusty Carbtune.

Good luck with it.
Spyug

[Shwartz]

With the carb rebuild just take your time and be thorough. You do have carb dip I hope ( about $30 a gallon, er 4 litres but reuseable) as spray cleaner will just not cut it. The carb bodies and jets do need a 24 hour soaking to come clean so don't rush that.

When you are ready to synch them let me know and I'll bring down the trusty Carbtune.

Good luck with it.
Spyug

I Don't have an "Industrial" carb dip yet as I was told I wouldn't be able to find one in Canada. So I've read all the posts and discussions about alternatives and figured they'd be ok since I've found go gumming yet whatsoever. I was probably going to end up using the Pinesol method. What do you have and where did you get it?

P.S. Did you know that Sturgess is having a "Black Friday sale" today on all parts and accessories? I got 20% off

[GateKeeper]

if they are not badly gummed up and tarnished and only need a good cleaning to get the road grime off of them, and the insides are clean a dip in PineSol will be OK, leave them at least in there for a day, I put mine in a bucket and left them outside, the pine smell will get to you if in the garage or house

see thread here

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=1530313&postcount=41

and some pics to show you now

BEFORE



AFTER

while in the bucket get a brush and scrub a bit, you can get a baby bottle brush to get in between all the nooks and cranies




But after the dunk in the PineSol, you need to take them completely apart and inspect all parts, and you will be doing all the O rings as well

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=1530764&postcount=47

do not skimp out on the carb cleaning process

it will cause you headaches in the long run...

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[Shwartz]

Yes, I remember reading your post and seeing the pics. That's when I decided that I would probably go that way.

P.S. I just found out that Sturgess Cycle in Hamilton is having a "Black Friday Sale". everything's 20% off.
Just ordered handlebars too

Grinning ear to ear.

[SVSooke]

I Don't have an "Industrial" carb dip yet as I was told I wouldn't be able to find one in Canada. So I've read all the posts and discussions about alternatives and figured they'd be ok since I've found go gumming yet whatsoever. I was probably going to end up using the Pinesol method. What do you have and where did you get it?

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=178816 got mine at a local auto parts store.Have to ask at the counter for it with very good reason.Do not use in an space attached to your house.
You will be sorry if you doHave used Pine-Sol on less mucky carbs with good results to but the 78 1000 carbs where varnished beyond what I thought it could do.

[Shwartz]

Alright so I found the Kleen-Flo sitting by it's lonesome self on a shelf at Napa, wrapped in bag that looked more like a Haz-Mat suit so that it doesn't contaminate the rest of the products. The warning label recommended leaving the bag on until it's used.
$59 +tax (ouch).
All this for carbs that aren't really that dirty.
Then I went to the Re-use-it centre (second hand store) and picked up some lovely cookware for $5.50 (I really only paid $3.40-ish because I paid cash, when their boss wasn't looking) for dipping.
Will post results tonight, this may be a long process because it recommends only using it at room temperature, and NOT in the house. I'm working in a shed in November so I need to keep the heater on, but keep it away from the product.

Hopefully I won't die!

[Shwartz]

So carbs have been dipped. I mistakenly got the order mixed up and dipped the wrong float bowls so I have lost the plastic coating on carb 1 and 4. Not a huge deal but I should now paint them. I'm thinking of shining up the tops and painting just the bowls a satin-ish black. We'll see how all that goes.

So like i said, the carbs are dipped and the new parts are streaming in.


I love new stuff.
So we have brake seals/boots for the rear caliper, the little rubber seal between the caliper-halfs, Exhaust gaskets, engine gaskets/seals, handlebars, carb o-rings, and intake boot seals.

When disassembling the carbs I found the bowl gaskets to be VERY difficult to get off successfully. Because of this I figured that they may not seal very well anymore anyways. So if I was going to replace them, now is the time to do it. So I just cut them off the carb bases. I did find out by the time I got to the last carb that if I had simply slipped the knife blade under one specific spot and then simply pulled really hard that the gasket seemed to hold together (I expected it to tear) and come off. So I may have gotten away without needing them but if they're that tough to begin with than we're better safe than sorry by replacing them (very low cost fix).
So until I receive my new bowl gaskets (from Z-1) and rubber plugs (mine were hard and didn't seem to want to stay in really well), the carbs have remained disassembled. I could start moving on with the brake rebuild (and may do that yet), but I don't think that the parts are far off yet, and I'm trying to do specifically one thing at a time. This keeps me grounded and I feel that I'm accomplishing things, rather than tearing everything apart.

The funny part about that is nothing is happening while parts are waiting to arrive! Funny how that works


Nonetheless, unfortunately life gets in the way. I've finally sold my car that I was trying to sell. The best part is that the guy took it as is (I was supposed to fix an ABS line to the sensor because the harness had a fault in it). So less work to do now on that.
So now that it's out of the way I can continue on the bike right?...
My wife purchased 4 kitchen cabinets that she wants installed with a countertop prior to the family Christmas.....ugh.

Luckily I didn't try to do an entire rebuild this year Once I have the repairs done that I have listed in my previous posts, that will be it for the winter. I'll worry about making it pretty next winter. For now, I want it to run its best, and not leak.
-Carbs
-Brakes
-Gaskets
-Electrical
-Tires
-Get the safety check done

Ride it.

[Shwartz]

Just some reference pictures that I took on the night of dis-assembly.

Weapon of choice. It's true what they say. This stuff has been re-bagged and the bowl of old fluid moved outside, and a week later, the shed and everything in it stills smells like it. This smell is not going to go away anytime soon.


$3.50 for all supplies from the "Reuse-it" centre. Only way to go.


Reference pic just prior to splitting them.

More for me than anyone else's reference.

Another


What they looked like

You can see the piece missing from the lip. That was cracked prior to me getting the bike, and when I remove the bowl the piece came off with it. It's literally just the lip to hold the gasket in place. The gasket seat itself is fine.

This one's a reference pic so that I can reassemble the choke rod.


Again, just a reference pic for me when reassembling.


That's it for now.

[GS650E_81]

Let me know how the valve cover gasket turns out for you.

I just did mine on my 81 and the holes did not match up...

I bought my gasket from PowerSportsPlus.

Nice post btw.

[Shwartz]

Let me know how the valve cover gasket turns out for you.

I just did mine on my 81 and the holes did not match up...

I bought my gasket from PowerSportsPlus.

Nice post btw.

I got mine from Zuki (local dealer). I had to provide my engine serial number as their was a change mid way through the production season. Mine has a 17-bolt gasket. The previous was a 16-bolt.
Will let you know when I get to that.

[MAJikMARCer]

I got mine from Zuki (local dealer). I had to provide my engine serial number as their was a change mid way through the production season. Mine has a 17-bolt gasket. The previous was a 16-bolt.
Will let you know when I get to that.

Easy mistake to make since the online micro-fiche is the same for the 81/82 model. Only a few changes between the two years and even then because they are so similar it's possible for someone to have put an 82 engine in an 81 frame or vice-versa. The engine number is pretty important in this case.

I'd like to see if the 82 rear sets would work on my 81. I like the forged aluminum instead of the stamped and chromed sheet metal.

[mrbill5491]

I love new stuff.
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Hmm, are you sure those are the right parts for your stove??

[mrbill5491]

"The funny part about that is nothing is happening while parts are waiting to arrive! Funny how that works "

Pretty much how my rebuild went. Wait and wait for parts, though during that down time I did a lot of cleaning, electrical repairs, and some light painting. Surprising how much time it takes just to clean stuff.

[SVSooke]

Weapon of choice. It's true what they say. This stuff has been re-bagged and the bowl of old fluid moved outside, and a week later, the shed and everything in it stills smells like it. This smell is not going to go away anytime soon.
$3.50 for all supplies from the "Reuse-it" centre. Only way to go.

IIRC I did warn youThe smell does go away,eventually.Got a pot and veggie steamer at the Sally Anne,definitely the way to do it.

[Shwartz]

The last awaiting pieces (Of the first round of orders). At this rate I'll start reassembling sometime after Christmas.

Oh well, this time of year should be spent with Family anyways.

Merry CHRISTmas everybody!