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    #76
    Originally posted by Charmayne View Post
    Well today, I went to drain the oil out of my bike. I started to work on the front where the filter was then Scott was nice enough to remind me to drain from the oil drain plug which,” thank you dad it would’ve been a mess if you didn’t stop me”. After I removed the drain plug, the oil started to come out fast and very clear. Something didn’t look right which reminded us that Scott left the petcock on prime when he picked up the bike filling the oil with gas.
    Sorry for digging up very old comments but how does the gas find its way to the oil? I'm asking because I had the same thing this spring when I drained oil! There must have been about 1:1 ratio of oil and gas, around 6 liters total. My best theory is that also a carb flooded and gas got on the cylinder head intake side and the valve happened to be open and gas finally dripped between the piston rings to the oil...???
    -81 GS850G
    -82 GS450

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      #77
      Originally posted by Juke Nukem View Post
      Sorry for digging up very old comments but how does the gas find its way to the oil? I'm asking because I had the same thing this spring when I drained oil! There must have been about 1:1 ratio of oil and gas, around 6 liters total. My best theory is that also a carb flooded and gas got on the cylinder head intake side and the valve happened to be open and gas finally dripped between the piston rings to the oil...???
      petcock left in prime position, faulty petcock, petcock leaking fuel down the vacuum line into number 2 cylinder, or faulty float valve in carb.
      The big guy up there rides a Suzuki (this I know)
      1981 gs850gx

      1999 RF900
      past bikes. RF900
      TL1000s
      Hayabusa
      gsx 750f x2
      197cc Francis Barnett
      various British nails

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        #78
        We have had problems with her fuel gauge for the last year or two. After narrowing it down to the gauge itself on Sunday, I finally got around to fixing that today. Unfortunately, losing 5 hours on Monday due to work requirements and other scheduling issues means the bike still isn't finished but I'm looking forward to Saturday getting here so I can get it out for a road test.
        Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

        1981 GS550T - My First
        1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
        2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

        Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
        Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
        and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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          #79
          Been busy with other things so I don't get to spend a lot of time in the garage but I'm still doing a little bit every night. I'm hoping to reconnect the wiring and pipes tomorrow so maybe be able to have the bike running for a test ride on Sunday

          Engine and Carbs reinstalled by Scott Baker, on Flickr
          Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

          1981 GS550T - My First
          1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
          2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

          Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
          Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
          and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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            #80
            Well, the bike is back together and finally running.



            Bike Reassembled by Scott Baker, on Flickr

            I didn't get it out on the road yet today but will after I put the license plate back on and wax the chain tomorrow after work. After we ran the bike in the video above and then let it sit for about 20 minutes, I grabbed the Harbor Freight compression tester and numbers are at 89/89/89/92 for each cylinder. This puts the numbers about what they were when I tested it with oil and the bike cold (remember that hot numbers with that tester were in the low to mid 70s). I'll test it again later this week with both the HF tester and one I'll rent from O'Reillys. However, I think that for now the compression numbers look better.

            I hope we have solved her problem but only time will tell. One fix was verified though - her gas gauge is working again.
            Last edited by cowboyup3371; 08-16-2020, 06:16 PM.
            Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

            1981 GS550T - My First
            1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
            2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

            Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
            Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
            and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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              #81
              Ride it a week or so and periodically goose it a bit..get those rings seated in real good then retest. Be sure to hold the throttle wide open when cranking the engine. UNPLUG all the plugs too when cranking.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #82
                Thanks Chuck. Will do.
                Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                1981 GS550T - My First
                1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                  #83
                  You can remove all the plugs when checking compression too. This will allow engine to spin easier and faster with way less stress on the starter motor.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #84
                    And so after a minor hiccup with a loose nut (yes, the one between the seat and the handlebars, the bike seems to be running well. I'm not ready to say the original problem that drove us to this spot is fixed but I'll should have a better feeling of how well it's going to stay running by the end of the week. I did my best to break in the rings correctly in the first few miles but it's still smoking slightly. I'll keep an eye on it for a bit though.
                    Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                    1981 GS550T - My First
                    1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                    2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                    Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                    Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                    and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                      #85
                      So 50 miles in on the bike so far and the original problem seems to have faded away. I'll keep checking on it for a bit longer but sadly the bike will be leaving my garage soon and moving away to a shed near Columbus OH as Charmayne is moving.

                      The only concern I have now is still some blue smoke on acceleration. I'm hoping it will stop soon but we'll see. Rings were brand new but we did have to re-use the oil separators
                      Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                      1981 GS550T - My First
                      1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                      2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                      Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                      Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                      and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                        #86
                        Found today that I have burned through a quart of oil in less than 200 miles since the rebuild. We'll take the top end back off and put a full new set of stock rings in
                        Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                        1981 GS550T - My First
                        1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                        2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                        Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                        Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                        and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                          #87
                          I would think a quart of oil in just two hundred miles would produce clouds of blue smoke.
                          Was it that bad?
                          2@ \'78 GS1000

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                            #88
                            In a word with enough to make ten letters - yes.

                            I was just hoping I was wrong
                            Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                            1981 GS550T - My First
                            1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                            2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                            Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                            Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                            and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                              #89
                              did you put the first and second rings in the correct grooves? Round edged ring is top and the diagonal cut edged is second ring. See page 49 of tge service manual. AND there are little letters at one end of the rings...these go facing up.
                              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                                #90
                                Yes we did Chuck. I’m thinking the older oil separators that we had to reuse are the culprit since the new ones from Cruzinimage wouldn’t seat properly to lower the cylinders
                                Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                                1981 GS550T - My First
                                1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                                2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                                Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                                Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                                and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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