1982 GS1100EZ Phase II

[CivilRock]

That's a good idea. I'm wondering if that shorter and straighter kickstand would bolt right up to the OEM spot and solve the issue. The stock stand has quite a sweep to it.

I like your numbering system.

I was thinking that I just ride sans stand and have my race crew follow me everywhere I go, jump out of a van, and put me on the rear stand every time I pull into a coffee shop or something.

I put a dab of weld on the contact point of the kickstand. It's down a little, but I'll have to test ride to see if it's enough. I'm sure I can find a happy medium between dragging and cramping.

-Kevin

[MK3Brent]

That's a good idea. I'm wondering if that shorter and straighter kickstand would bolt right up to the OEM spot and solve the issue. The stock stand has quite a sweep to it.

I like your numbering system.

I was thinking that I just ride sans stand and have my race crew follow me everywhere I go, jump out of a van, and put me on the rear stand every time I pull into a coffee shop or something.

I put a dab of weld on the contact point of the kickstand. It's down a little, but I'll have to test ride to see if it's enough. I'm sure I can find a happy medium between dragging and cramping.

-Kevin

What I'm doing right now is, take out the kickstand and put it in my backpack. When I need to park, just take it out, and throw it in with a screw driver through the hole. Works fine for now.

[CivilRock]

What I'm doing right now is, take out the kickstand and put it in my backpack. When I need to park, just take it out, and throw it in with a screw driver through the hole. Works fine for now.

That's keepin' it real.

I think I'm going to try and fabricate just the stand arm. If it doesn't have that sweeping arc to it, I think it will tuck up in there nicely. I took a long look at it this morning, and even if I moved it all the way forward or back on the frame rail, it's still going to be in the way. And I'd rather not cut/weld on the frame right there and ruin my powdercoating if I can avoid it.

Brent, can you do some engineering analysis and design for my kickstand? Is cast iron stronger than mild steel? I'm going to assume nearest the pivot point needs to be the strongest part.

I might have to really think about this, as I don't want to test my fabrication skills and have my bike laying on it's side in a parking lot.

-Kevin

[CivilRock]

I could build something like this pretty easily.
Or shoot, for $34 buy this one and cut it to length.
-K

[MK3Brent]

That's keepin' it real.

I think I'm going to try and fabricate just the stand arm. If it doesn't have that sweeping arc to it, I think it will tuck up in there nicely. I took a long look at it this morning, and even if I moved it all the way forward or back on the frame rail, it's still going to be in the way. And I'd rather not cut/weld on the frame right there and ruin my powdercoating if I can avoid it.

Brent, can you do some engineering analysis and design for my kickstand? Is cast iron stronger than mild steel? I'm going to assume nearest the pivot point needs to be the strongest part.

I might have to really think about this, as I don't want to test my fabrication skills and have my bike laying on it's side in a parking lot.

-Kevin

Hi, Kevin.
Sorry I didn't see this post until now.

Carbon steel has (generally) less shear strength properties vs. cast iron.

But really, consider the forces. Either materials should work fine, as long as you're not shocking the kickstand mounting tab. Remember, your interface is still going to be carbon steel if welded to the tube of the bike.

Hope this helps.

[GSX1000E]

Why not just weld a bead on the kickstand rest and grind to finish so that the kickstand rides just a wee bit lower in the seated position?

[Rob S.]

What I'm doing right now is, take out the kickstand and put it in my backpack. When I need to park, just take it out, and throw it in with a screw driver through the hole. Works fine for now.

And I thought I was 'roughing it' by riding without a center stand!

[MK3Brent]

And I thought I was 'roughing it' by riding without a center stand!

Please don't get me wrong... this is a huge pain in the ass and is getting old quick! I think I'm going to get a bolt on affair much like posted above. might put mine on the right side because of clearance being the best there.

[CivilRock]

Why not just weld a bead on the kickstand rest and grind to finish so that the kickstand rides just a wee bit lower in the seated position?

That's exactly what I did. It's still not low enough, and I sat there for quite some time trying to figure out how low it needs to be and not only will it look weird with the kickstand 25% deployed, it will probably scrape the ground.

I even thought that I could just nudge it down with my toe as I shifted, but it's too hard, and it takes too long. That might sound super picky, but adding 1 second onto a .125 second action is too long.

I'm going to build a new kickstand that will tuck under the frame better and use the existing mounting tab. That's the plan anyway.

On a different note, one of my long time buddies was looking over the list of parts my bike has, noted that the list of original parts is much shorter than the list of existing parts. I thought that was amusing... and true.

1. Frame
2. Tank
3. Body
4. tail light
5. headlight

There's more little stuff, but not much.
-Kevin


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2014

[T8erbug]

I haven't had a chance to go through the whole build thread but the first page looks good, man! I dig the bike so far. Keep up the good work

[CivilRock]

Fabricated Kickstand

Problem solved.
Only took me about 4 hours of cutting, grinding, fitting, welding, refitting x5, and painting last night until 2:30am.

Tucks up nicely out of the way and the bike leans over about 1 deg less, which is OK with me. When I added 1" ride height to the rear it really made it lean on the stand.
Plenty strong. I made the hinge out of 1/4" plate and cut them in a "V" shape. Then I notched out the tube to match. I did it so my main welds weren't 90 deg to the round tube.
I couldn't decide on a foot shape so I just traced the shape of of the original seed shape.

-Kevin











Sorry, didn't realize this one was out of focus until now.