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    #76
    The cold and wet went away for about a day and Little Suzy fired right up. Had been sitting unused for a week or so at least. Still as amazing to me as ever.

    It's been a while since my last update so I figured a little more now and maybe some more later. Those who have been following this saga may remember the front wheel/fork/suspension instability or scary wobble I was getting with the new tires, last year. It almost completely went away slowly or I got used to it.

    A month or so ago, the speedo stopped working. I translated RPMs in my head to keep to a reasonable speed for a while. Then the tachometer stopped working as well. I need to revisit that. I had it apart several months ago to reattach the face. Boths screws had backed out. I'm not sure I got the top sqouzed back on all the way correctly. It worked fine for a while until I needed it most.

    So what did I do ? I looked into why the speedo was dead. I had removed the front wheel sometime last Sumemr because the front fender was rubbing on the tire occasionally. I drove it for a few months trying to decipher what the intermittant grinding noise/feeling was from, before discovering the reason. I ended up peening over the rivets that attach the front fender to it's mounting bracket. They had been loose a LONG time and eventually got loose enough to make the intermittant noise less intermittant and almost constant before I could figure it out.

    The occasionally sudden jerk and loud "ping" noise had finally ceased also. From day one, it seemed, I would occasionally pick up a piece of gravel while driving up or down my dirt driveway. The front fender sometimes would have gotten josteled loose just so, and it sometimes was close enough to the rubber that it popped the piece of gravel out of a tread groove as it came around to the back edge of the front fender. I was always thinking that small stones had been getting jammed for a brief instant into the brake calipers but could never find evidence of that when I would look for what the noise was from, exactly. The reason had eluded me ever since I started using the bike for daily transportation pretty much year-round. Somewhat of a relief to finally figure that one out. It wasn't until the front fender got loose enough that it had enough play and would rattle almost all the time, that I was able to understand.

    So I thought that my work to fix the loose fender had done something to the speedometer drive. I took it off and the grease it seemed, had hardened. Now I don't keep records really but I'm pretty sure I had been into the speedo drive already in my few years of using this bike. Sure enough I realized I had used from left over stock, a BMW oil drain plug aluminum washer as a spacer inside the speedo drive. The aluminum washer/spacer had worn on on side, allowing the drive dogs to back out of the slots in the wheel. I probably got about 20-25,000 miles out of it so I put in another. Maybe someday when the latest one wears down for instance, I'll try to come up with a better part to go in there.

    Whatever ... In putting the front wheel on, I decided I woudl look into why the front brakes seemed like the rotors were so warped. Maybe I had put them back on out of phase when I changed the tire. The front brakes always exhibited some amount of pulsation when used although they always brought the speed down quickly, whenever I needed them too. The pulsation was always most noticeable as I'd come to a complete stop, upon a mild application of the brake.

    OK, so now Im at the point of this whole update. I discovered the front wheel has about 1/4" of lateral runnout !!! No idea why I never noticed it before but I'm sure it has to do with all the front end scary problems I experienced, when I put the new tires on. So now I'm in the market for a replacement front wheel and the first palce I thought of looking was in this forum. Figured while I'm here, I may as well give anyone who's interetested, an update on my continuing ownership and regular use of this 1980 GS 850 GL"T" model.

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      #77
      I haven't updated this thread for a while so figured it's not a bad idea to keep at it as things develop.

      I'm at about 68,000 miles now. Little Suzy has had a lot of time off this past year because I'm not having to drive very far for work lately and there is always plenty of parking where I've been ending up going to. I have to admit it takes a lot less work to go in a car than in weather resistant garb. Maybe i'm just getting lazy in my old age ...

      The other day the starter decided to not work. I had used it several times in the past month and this happened while I was on the road. When I had a chance to, I looked at why.

      Turns out, when I replaced the original fried stator winding, I relocated the starter motor wire. The wire wouldn't go as far as it is supposed to, into the cavity where the starter is. I put the connector on at almost 90 degrees to the axis of the starter motor so the wire would not be pulled tight.

      What happened was the connector insulator was pushed up against the bottom of the chrome starter cover. Eventually the insulator wore through to the metal connector and contacted the chrome starter cover. In my unmistakable style I hammered a dent into the cover so it would not do that again ... all the time I was thinking to myself, this sure is a stupid design to put the connector so close to the cover like that ... and why did it take so long to screw up ... but it did the job after hammering and basically screwing up a perfectly fine starter motor cover.

      Now the cover almost matches the wrinkled rear fender which I still haven't replaced after getting rear ended. Have agood used replacement rear fender and stock taillight but since Little Suzy keeps getting me around I have not spent any extra time prettying her up. I was able to push start it for a few days until I had a chance to look into the starter problem.

      When I was putting the starter cover back on, I noticed how the starter wire was routed incorrectly undernath the heavy engine ground wire. THAT'S what made it too tight to fit well ! I rerouted it and then realized the connector could easily be oriented paralell to the starter motor. There was ample slack in the wire now. In no way could the connector have ever contacted the chrome starter cover ... if I had only done it right the first time.

      Yet another chapter in my idiocy I call maintenance and repair for this poor beast. She sat at lest three months this winter. No cover, getting rain soaked, snow covered, freezing temperatures below zero and generally ignored. Parked just as I had left it when I got back from wherever I went, the last time I used it.

      Battery still connected. A testimonial to the regulator modification this forum provided for me. When I eventually decided to go somewhere on it, she fired right up after about 2 power strokes ! What AMAZING machines these are.

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        #78
        Originally posted by tirebiter View Post
        The other day the starter decided to not work. ... What happened was the connector insulator was pushed up against the bottom of the chrome starter cover. Eventually the insulator wore through to the metal connector and contacted the chrome starter cover. In my unmistakable style I hammered a dent into the cover so it would not do that again . ...
        I had the same thing happen to my wife's bike. No problems with wire routing, as yours seemed to be, but it was arcing from the starter terminal to the bottom of the cover. Hammered a dent, all is well again.

        "Enhanced" cover, with enhancement highlighted:



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          #79
          I think you guys could have just epoxied on a little high temp rubber piece under it instead of denting it down. Or has it been done before and not worked.....

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            #80
            Dented upwards actually Nicky.

            I couldn't even figure out where it was touching or why at first. Never mind do something futuristic like a dab of epoxy.

            When I initially tried to slip the rubber cover down past the eyelet, it wouldn't go. I kept working at it trying to twist it around pushing up and down but it wouldn't budge. I did see a crack in the insulation a few inches away from the eyelet which I had thought was the trouble spot. I was trying to be thorough and make sure the eyelet connector was ok, too. Good thing ...

            Until I realized the damage by seeing the arc spot on the bottom of the chrome cover I was getting more confused about why the rubber eyelet cover was stuck onto the wire. Then I decided to "fix" it by beating a dent into the cover before realizing the whole picture. The rubber had melted and fused onto the yellow insulator. Once i saw the damage it all became crystal clear. Unfortunately I had already "enhanced" the cover. Oh well she's taken me another 1,000 miles since then and I'm still happy with her.

            Glad to see at least someone else did the dent trick, though. Especially someone like Steve, who knows so much about these bikes. Tricky little "gotchas" everywhere on them.
            Last edited by Guest; 03-09-2018, 08:55 AM.

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