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    Looky what folowed me home.

    Well, kind of... Just picked this engine up as a possible rebuild project from ebay. The engine is from a "Good running and shifting" 1983 GS1100G with a supposed 28K miles. My plan, once it arrives, is to assess the condition, do the standard maintenance and then test run it on a 1000GL frame I have sitting around. If all checks out I'll be freshening her up, cleaning it up and then installing it in my 1000GT. Any suggestions or warnings on the transplant would be greatly appreciated.

    Here are some pics:










    I know that the valve cover is cracked and an oil pan fin is broken. That happened when the engine was removed. Already have a replacement valve cover on order. Paid $100 plus shipping of $100 so total was $200. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    Anyone know if the 83 2 valve engines came with welded cranks or was that only a 4 valve thing?
    Last edited by JTGS850GL; 09-23-2014, 03:42 PM.
    http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
    1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
    1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
    1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

    Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

    JTGS850GL aka Julius

    GS Resource Greetings

    #2
    Wow. Well at least I know who beat me to it. Great score. I am hoping to do the same to mine before spring with an 1168 kit just for fun.

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      #3
      Not sure on the crank , but it should have a D- port head on it.
      1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
      80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
      1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished :D
      83 gs750ed- first new purchase
      85 EX500- vintage track weapon
      1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
      “Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
      If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing

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        #4
        Good to hear about the D-port head. Hoping for no surprises once it arrives.

        I'm assuming from the lack of responses that there are no issues with swapping it in in place of the 1000G engine. Just a simple drop in replacement.
        http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
        1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
        1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
        1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

        Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

        JTGS850GL aka Julius

        GS Resource Greetings

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          #5
          Yes should be a direct replacement, probably even the carbs, jetting should be close. Ignition may plug right in , but I do believe that the igniters themselves are different. may have to use the 1000 pickups
          1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
          80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
          1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished :D
          83 gs750ed- first new purchase
          85 EX500- vintage track weapon
          1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
          “Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
          If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing

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            #6
            Good heads up. I'll let you know how it turns out. Freight carrier says the engine should arrive on Monday.
            http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

            JTGS850GL aka Julius

            GS Resource Greetings

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              #7
              I thought the D-port was the '84 GK. Happy for you if I'm wrong.

              I seem to remember something about the 1100 output flange not matching the 1000. I'm pretty sure I remember seeing advice to get the drive shaft as well. Or was it the 850? Anyway, something to check into.
              Dogma
              --
              O LORD, be gracious to me; heal me, for I have sinned against you! - David

              Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense. - Carl Sagan

              --
              '80 GS850 GLT
              '80 GS1000 GT
              '01 ZRX1200R

              How to get a "What's New" feed without the Vortex, and without permanently quitting the Vortex

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dogma View Post
                I thought the D-port was the '84 GK. Happy for you if I'm wrong.

                I seem to remember something about the 1100 output flange not matching the 1000. I'm pretty sure I remember seeing advice to get the drive shaft as well. Or was it the 850? Anyway, something to check into.
                That is the plan for mine. When I do it I intend to get the swinger and shaft just to eliminate any hangups right at the beginning. And starting from an 850 I will have to get a set of 34mm carbs to go with it as well.

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                  #9
                  Doing a little checking. It seems that Suzuki only offered the driveshaft as a complete assembly including splined shaft, U-joint and mounting flange. I checked the parts fiche and it seems that the 1980 1000G and 1983 1100G use the same driveshaft (27100-49110). Some of the 850's use the same shaft while others use another shaft. Starting in 1980 the 850GX uses the same shaft as the 1000G and 1100G but the GT uses a different shaft (27100-45102). By 1982 all the 850's use the same shaft as the 1000G and 1100G. Hope this helps to clear this up for others.
                  http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                  1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                  1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                  1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                  Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                  JTGS850GL aka Julius

                  GS Resource Greetings

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                    #10
                    Good info. Thanks for recording it here.
                    Dogma
                    --
                    O LORD, be gracious to me; heal me, for I have sinned against you! - David

                    Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense. - Carl Sagan

                    --
                    '80 GS850 GLT
                    '80 GS1000 GT
                    '01 ZRX1200R

                    How to get a "What's New" feed without the Vortex, and without permanently quitting the Vortex

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                      #11
                      Received a call from the transport company today. Looks like the engine will arrive between 9:00am and 11:00am on Monday. YAYYYYY!!!! Replacement valve cover arrived today. Gasket should arrive on Monday as well.

                      What do you guys think? Should I paint it satin black or gloss black?
                      http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                      1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                      1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                      1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                      Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                      JTGS850GL aka Julius

                      GS Resource Greetings

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                        #12
                        Engine arrived and everything looks as expected. Checked the cracked valve cover and it looks like the break is isolated to only the outside of the bolt boss and the bolt is bent. No cracks on the inside of the valve cover what so ever. Checked my replacement valve cover and everything fits nice. Just need to replace the one bolt. Checked the exhaust ports and they are indeed the D-Ports. Removed the exhaust gaskets. Some of the openings had 3 sets of gaskets installed.

                        Did a complete valve adjustment with only two valves in spec. None of the valves were completely solid as my .02mm shim would pass through. All shims that were replaced were equal to or greater then 2.70mm in thickness. Nothing thinner then 2.65mm was needed to get her back into spec.

                        I smelled a strong odor of gas in the engine but no oil or gas in the bottom end so I'm betting that they flooded the engine and drained the oil before shipment. Probably a carb problem with bad floats that dumped gas into the engine when they tried to verify its condition before pulling it. I'm just going to fill it back up and drain it again after cranking it over a little. Better safe then sorry. Oil is cheap when compared to another engine. Everything inside looked very clean with no signs of wear on the cam lobes.

                        Did a compression check with no carbs attached. Used a spare battery and jumped the cables directly to the starter motor (no solenoid) to turn it over. Compression numbers were all between 142 and 148 psi cold so I guess it's in good shape.

                        Still need to decide on what ignition I'm going to use. It came with the 1983 4 wire pickups used with the electronic advance computers. The 1980 1000G that it's going into has the 2 wire pickup with mechanical advance. Probably going to swap the 1000G advance and pickups over to the 1100G motor but still toying with the idea of going with the 1983 ECU.

                        With that done I'm moving onto cleaning/painting the engine up and polishing the side covers before installation. Satin black and polished aluminum looks so good to me. Sorry for no pictures but nothing pretty to take pictures of yet.
                        http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                        1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                        1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                        1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                        Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                        JTGS850GL aka Julius

                        GS Resource Greetings

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
                          Sorry for no pictures but nothing pretty to take pictures of yet.
                          You have seen pictures of some of the projects here, ... we don't need "pretty".

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                            #14
                            Any suggestions on the best way to clean up the engine? I don't want to disassemble the engine since it showed no signs of any major oil leaks. The engine looks to have been sprayed several times with various types and textures of paint. I was thinking of using aircraft strip from a spray can and then water from a garden hose to rinse it off as my first step. I'll seal up both intake and exhaust openings before I start.
                            http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                            1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                            1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                            1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                            Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                            JTGS850GL aka Julius

                            GS Resource Greetings

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                              #15
                              That's pretty much how I do it though using what we call paint stripper (the professional, old fashioned stuff that burns your skin) which I presume is the same as your aircraft stripper. You might struggle with just a garden hose - I use a pressure washer and even then it's rinse and repeat a good many times and a bit of poking around with an old barrel brush and whatever other implements you can use to get in all the nooks and crannies.
                              79 GS1000S
                              79 GS1000S (another one)
                              80 GSX750
                              80 GS550
                              80 CB650 cafe racer
                              75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                              75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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