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    Joe G's 1100 project

    I thought I would start a thread dedicated to my bike, a 1982 GS1100g. It is a little more of a project than I realized so this will help keep me organized and serve as a reference for related issues. Let me first say that I am looking forward to the project, am excited to learn, and I got the bike I want.

    Background:
    The bike has 38,000 miles and an 'odometer discrepancy' so I can't really comment on the miles. It clearly needs all engine gaskets and most seals replaced. It does not start easy, and when it runs the exhaust pops and the engine runs hot. The whole bike smokes a bit - the exhaust smokes after sitting awhile, and the engine smokes under the tank due to the oil leaks and heat (presumably from the tacho seal but not 100% certain). The charging system was pretty weak and the battery died after a hard start attempt. I have since re-routed the generator directly to the R/R and the charging system is at the minimum acceptable level. Both stator and R/R are aftermarket, installed by the Previous Hack. I will post numbers below. Not sure what I'm forgetting... well except the leaking gas tank seals/petcock

    Status:
    I got some good advice to check the charging system before digging into the engine gaskets. Before attempting that I swapped the exhaust for a set from a 1000L so my neighbors wouldn't go nuts. I also installed a new tacho seal and gasket. I ran the tests as outlined in the Stator papers, and my plan is to check the stator output one more time before I begin the tear down (to avoid opening the generator cover gasket more than once). I will order all new engine gaskets and seals and a new OEM petcock. Carb will be cleaned with a local member, and valves adjusted after reassembly. At this point I'm leaning toward a new stator and maybe a new R/R but will decide after posting the data.
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    Last edited by Guest; 11-06-2014, 10:33 PM. Reason: Added model/year

    #2
    Originally posted by Joe Garfield View Post
    Not sure what I'm forgetting...
    Year and model?
    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
      Year and model?
      It's in the first line. Lol
      No signature :(

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        #4
        Charging System

        Some good news today - I re-routed the 3 stator wires directly to the R/R and put a new connector on the R/R positive to wiring harness. Also I cleaned off the wire contacts at the battery terminals. I got between 13.6V and 13.9V across the terminals for idle, 2000 rpm, and 5000 rpm. I also double-checked the stator output voltage as it was earlier and the bike was running better, and I had a better connection than the other day. The charging system test went as follows:

        1) Battery potential @ 5000 rpm: 13.8V
        2) RR+ to Bat+ @ Idle: .033V
        3) RR- to Bat- @ Idle: .208V
        4) Stator Lead Resistance: 0.4, 0.5, 0.6 Ohms
        5) Stator to Eng Case Resistance: 0L, 0L, 0L.
        6) Stator Potential @ 5000 rpm: 70V A/C
        7) RR+(red) to Stator Lead (blk): 0L, 0L, 0L
        8) RR+ (blk) to Stator Lead (red): .448V, .449V, .419V
        9) RR- (blk) to Stator Lead (blk): 0L, 0L, 0L
        10) RR- (red) to Stator Lead (blk): .459V, .454V, .446V

        I have something like a 0.2 Ohm resistance in the ground between the RR and the Bat, so I will chase and clean connections during tear down. I had 14.28 V between the RR+ and Bat- at 5000 rpm so I'm really happy with that. I also need a new battery - it's working for now but losing a little too much under load. I was about to get one but figured I should wait so I don't waste an off-season.

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          #5
          Originally posted by trevor View Post
          It's in the first line. Lol
          Thanks to editing...

          Now the only thing you're forgetting is pictures! Show us what she looks like.
          Last edited by Rob S.; 11-06-2014, 10:19 PM.
          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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            #6
            Yes, added the model/year to first post after Rob's reminder. I added a pic too. Here's one more - I need to get some better pics, and learn how to post more than one at a time.
            Attached Files

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              #7
              Originally posted by Joe Garfield View Post
              I need to get some better pics, and learn how to post more than one at a time.
              From "the library": Posting Pictures to GSR.





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              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
              Family Portrait
              Siblings and Spouses
              Mom's first ride
              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                #8
                Now that's a good-looking bike. Nice siding and deck, too.
                1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                  #9
                  Thanks! I will gladly accept compliments on the bike The pic is from the Craigslist ad. I think this bike is going to come out nice.

                  I just bought a bunch of small stuff from KYHNC.com, a Kawa/Suzi dealer in NC. I was randomly searching the web for a part that seemed to be out of stock (center tank pad) in a few places and came to their site. They have all the 'cheap' gaskets/screws for under $2.49 so I bought about $50 worth of small parts. Hopefully it is all legit. Tomorrow I will update my spreadsheet and start ordering the rest of the engine gaskets.
                  Last edited by Guest; 11-07-2014, 12:16 AM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joe Garfield View Post
                    I was randomly searching the web for a part that seemed to be out of stock (center tank pad) in a few places and came to their site.
                    No need to do any "random searching", just go to Parts Outlaw.
                    CUSHION, CENTER 44541-34500 $6.56

                    Just keep in mind that virtually none of the online vendors have all (or any) of these parts in stock, and will have to order them from the main warehouse(s).

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                    sigpic
                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #11
                      I've got a couple of these beasts myself and some time ago I put together a thread that contains all the best of this Forum for this bike in one post. Have a look here:

                      Ultimate Shaftie GS1100 Thread

                      It will give you lots of good advice.

                      Greetings
                      Richard
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                      GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                      GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                      Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                        #12
                        Interesting. My bike lists P/N 44541-49400 which is out of stock at many places, and cross-referencing at Alpha says that part is only on my generation G (82-83 G and GK). Maybe they used the leaf of a different rubber tree in the mold or something (joking). Considering it's likely all coming from Suzuki Japan, I don't know how it makes sense for one supplier to list it available and others to say its out of stock

                        Anyway I was happy to save a few bucks on quite a few "2.49" parts - even after shipping - so it should all work out. It looks like Monday might be the last day warm enough to ride for a while so I'm in no rush. With the charging system working, the tachometer seal no longer making a mess, and the starting troubles linked to a faulty fuel cock, I am feeling pretty good about things
                        Last edited by Guest; 11-07-2014, 09:14 AM.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by londonboards View Post
                          I've got a couple of these beasts myself and some time ago I put together a thread that contains all the best of this Forum for this bike in one post. Have a look here:

                          Ultimate Shaftie GS1100 Thread

                          It will give you lots of good advice.

                          Greetings
                          Thank you, Sir!

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                            #14
                            Yeah Mr.Garfield, I think your motorcycle will clean up real nice. It looks to be in about the same condition as my 82 850 when I got it. How is your exhaust system? Mine was okay i did remove it to clean and wire wheel and paint the pre-muffler. There are a few more things I have to do. Like you said we have all winter... I think you'll like your 1100G very much."Mr Garfield" inside joke from his other thread
                            My Motorcycles:
                            22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
                            22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
                            82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
                            81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
                            79 1000e (all original)
                            82 850g (all original)
                            80 KZ 650F (needs restored)

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                              #15
                              Congratulations on a fine bike. I have an 82 and an 83. Just got the 83 running last August and have put close to 4500 miles on it since. Fantastic, comfortable ride, which is able to keep up with most others, assuming you have the skill and nerve. You sure live in the heartland of GS owners. Be sure to tap into their knowledge.

                              cg
                              Last edited by Charlie G; 11-07-2014, 04:04 PM.
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                              83 GS1100g
                              2006 Triumph Sprint ST 1050

                              Ohhhh!........Torque sweet Temptress.........always whispering.... a murmuring Siren

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