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    #31
    Originally posted by Zagg View Post
    Yeah, I am disappointed with the results. I didn't notice any breaks, but I will inspect closely. Thanks for that.

    I read the airbox thread on BikeCliff's site that mentioned using weatherstripping to seal the caps... Is there any way to fix the or effectively seal the tear in the "snorkel" ? (I posted a pic of the tear in the boot)

    Also, I am unclear on where you are suggesting I add the high density urethane foam... Could you be more detailed on that one? Thanks!
    Hardware stores sell closed cell polyurethane foam strips that you can use to replace the deteriorated foam from the air filter frame. I think you will want the 1/2" or 3/4" wide stuff that's about 3/8" tall. You may be able to use similar on the air filter box end caps if you can't salvage the seal that's already provided.

    Regarding the broken fuel screws, check this for more info...http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...ew_removal.pdf

    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #32
      Also, applying plenty of heat to that bottom screw, soak, heat, tap tap with a screwdriver and hammer, soak heat and hit it with vice grips should get it. I'd personally put some opposing screws back in to offset the tension as well. Might just be in my head but if you remove all but the last one (especially that bottom one) it doesn't want to come out nicely.
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        #33
        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
        Hardware stores sell closed cell polyurethane foam strips that you can use to replace the deteriorated foam from the air filter frame. I think you will want the 1/2" or 3/4" wide stuff that's about 3/8" tall. You may be able to use similar on the air filter box end caps if you can't salvage the seal that's already provided.

        Regarding the broken fuel screws, check this for more info...http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...ew_removal.pdf

        Okay, thanks for the info and pointing out the fuel screw. I clicked the link and I see where it would show up. I'll take a look when I can get back to the carbs.

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          #34
          Originally posted by mikerophone View Post
          Also, applying plenty of heat to that bottom screw, soak, heat, tap tap with a screwdriver and hammer, soak heat and hit it with vice grips should get it. I'd personally put some opposing screws back in to offset the tension as well. Might just be in my head but if you remove all but the last one (especially that bottom one) it doesn't want to come out nicely.
          Yessir. Thanks. I haven't had to get this involved in screw removal before but I have a propane torch on hand and used the exact method you mentioned AND....


          HELL yeah!!! GOT IT!!!

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            #35
            Okay, so I have two questions...
            1. When I cracked open the cover a washer fell out before I could see what was going on in there and I am hoping one of you can tell me where it may have come off. I have an arrow pointing to the washer that stayed and an arrow pointing to where I assume it came from. The washer that fell on the floor is identical. Does it go on the same gear pin that this one is from?

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              #36
              Okay, question #2.... I have browsed through the stator papers, but I do not have a battery currently and the wiring harness is in a box so testing is not possible at the moment so forgive me if this is obvious, but can you tell me what this means? I am assuming it is wax similar to what is on the stator, but I do not know if it is good or bad or neither. Thanks!


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                #37
                I should mention if I haven't already that this is my first motorcycle so I am looking at my very first stator in person....

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                  #38
                  Hell yeah is right - nice work! Great photos too, lots of detail, nice and sharp too, thanks for that. Have you looked at the parts fiches online for your bike to see if the washer was doubled up? I don't recall there being 2 stacked washers, seems like Suzuki would've just used one thick one as opposed to 2, maybe someone else can ID it's location.

                  Is that waxy looking stuff inside the rotor hard or soft? Almost looks like it could be residue from the epoxy melting and recombining. Not sure on that.

                  Even though you don't have a battery right now, if you have a meter, you can at least use the resistance (ohms) setting to check to make sure none of the stator legs short (have continuity) to ground.

                  Also, if you do end up replacing it, I wouldn't try to remove the 3 stator JIS screws without a JIS screwdriver or an impact screwdriver. They are always in there super tight with locktite and will strip out easily. It's hard to get even heat or a drill down in there to remove stripped out screws. Put it in a vice if you can, and the impact screwdriver at Harbor Freight is only $8. The tips are pretty soft, but you can get a good set at Sears once you ruin the HF ones.

                  Good luck, hopefully someone can help with the washer and that strange substance.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by mikerophone View Post
                    Hell yeah is right - nice work! Great photos too, lots of detail, nice and sharp too, thanks for that. Have you looked at the parts fiches online for your bike to see if the washer was doubled up? I don't recall there being 2 stacked washers, seems like Suzuki would've just used one thick one as opposed to 2, maybe someone else can ID it's location.

                    Is that waxy looking stuff inside the rotor hard or soft? Almost looks like it could be residue from the epoxy melting and recombining. Not sure on that.

                    Even though you don't have a battery right now, if you have a meter, you can at least use the resistance (ohms) setting to check to make sure none of the stator legs short (have continuity) to ground.

                    Also, if you do end up replacing it, I wouldn't try to remove the 3 stator JIS screws without a JIS screwdriver or an impact screwdriver. They are always in there super tight with locktite and will strip out easily. It's hard to get even heat or a drill down in there to remove stripped out screws. Put it in a vice if you can, and the impact screwdriver at Harbor Freight is only $8. The tips are pretty soft, but you can get a good set at Sears once you ruin the HF ones.

                    Good luck, hopefully someone can help with the washer and that strange substance.
                    Thanks, yeah I was thinking the same thing about the washer, but I had to run and couldn't do much more than put the cover right back on and go. I tried the partfiche at Part Shark, but I can't find one that shows all the gears in there. I found the covers and the stator but I didn't see one that had all of it exposed. I will look again.

                    The residue is hard and smooth. Are the stator coils covered in epoxy? if so I would assume it is melted epoxy, but I thought the location was interesting that it wasn't laying in the bottom but up the side.

                    I will definitely be getting an impact driver of some kind before tackling anything else that won't budge. Thanks!

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                      #40
                      The pictures are almost too much. I need to see if I can resize some of them before posting. They are coming from my SIII phone and then through Photobucket.

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                        #41
                        The stuff on the rotor is epoxy from attaching the magnets. No worry.

                        Look at the starter clutch section in the parts fishe. That shows two washers, one on each side of the gear.

                        BTW, photos ARE awesome. Good work.
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

                        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                          #42
                          Yes, one washer on each side. It's quite common to only find one though! Lots of people loose one or can't figure out where it goes so they just don't put it back in
                          1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                          1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                          I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                            The stuff on the rotor is epoxy from attaching the magnets. No worry.

                            Look at the starter clutch section in the parts fishe. That shows two washers, one on each side of the gear.

                            BTW, photos ARE awesome. Good work.
                            Oh great, that definitely eases my mind. Starter Clutch! Okay, copy that. Thank you.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
                              Yes, one washer on each side. It's quite common to only find one though! Lots of people loose one or can't figure out where it goes so they just don't put it back in
                              Oh geez, that kind of stuff eats at me. I wouldn't be able to let it go.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
                                Yes, one washer on each side. It's quite common to only find one though! Lots of people loose one or can't figure out where it goes so they just don't put it back in
                                Or, even better, none at all. Which raises the question in my mind - did one or both get into the sump? Did a PO not know or care? Buying them is a pita, as I can't put back something like that without the proper washers in place, and so it has to be OEM parts, not just what I can rustle up locally. Last pair of those I bought, because of a PO, cost me something like a ten spot inc postage - the annoying thing was, I found I needed them just after I'd already taken delivery of some other OEM parts from the same supplier. The actual cost of them was low enough and they could have been included in the immediately preceding parcel.
                                ---- Dave

                                Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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