Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

1100 16 valve engine into 1981 GS750 frame

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    1100 16 valve engine into 1981 GS750 frame

    Thinking about dropping an 1100 16 valve engine into a 1981 GS750 frame. I am sure it will fit because it has a 16 valve 750 engine now. Just concerned about the frame and the torque the 1100 puts out. If anyone has done this , was the frame beefed up or strengthened for the larger (power) engine ? Please advise and thanks.

    TB
    1980 Suzuki GS550E, 1981 Suzuki GS 1100EX all stock, 1983 Suzuki GS 1100EX modified, 1985 GS1150E, 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1971 Kawasaki Mach lll 500 H1, 1973 Kawasaki Mach lV 750 H2.

    #2
    I think the frame may be too narrow. I know they use the same body work, but I think the frames are different. From Parts Outlaw:
    '81 GS750E frame # 41100-45400-019
    '81 GS1100E frame # 41100-49201-019
    :cool:GSRick
    No God, no peace. Know God, know peace.

    Eric Bang RIP 9/5/2018
    Have some bikes ready for us when we meet up.

    Comment


      #3
      Lower rear mount is the same. Front mounts need custom plates. Air must move forward an inch or so.
      1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

      Comment


        #4
        This isnt my own knowledge. I borrowed it from the internet. I googled gs 750 1100 and found a thread.
        1981 GS 1100e turbo, 83 motor, turbo pistons, new head, new turbo, backed and welded clutch basket, Dyna S ignition, cbr 929 front end, gsxr 750 rear end with 190 tire, all carbon fiber covered bodywork.

        Comment


          #5
          I rode one, very nice bike. The guy who did it didn't say it was very hard.

          I know the 1000 8v engines into the first gen 750s is very easy to do. I have done a few, didn't beef anything up and it worked fine, but I'm not riding it hard at 150mph, either.
          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

          Life is too short to ride an L.

          Comment


            #6


            I believe it's the lower mount that's different. The above link is for conversion motor mount plates. Some guys just leave the lower mount off though.

            Some beefier forks and an aluminum 1100E swingarm w/nice shocks would enhance the swap nicely.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

            Comment


              #7
              I did a few swaps some years back when I worked in a shop (1100 Katana motor into Kat 750 frame.....circa 1982 vintage). Yes - everything lines up except the bottom engine mounts (underneath the crank). Pretty easy to cut some new ones out.

              I think you have to trim the sprocket cover a bit on the 1135 motors but they slot straight in as well.
              Current:
              Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

              Past:
              VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
              And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

              Comment


                #8
                Done it... It's actually pretty easy, Just be sure you match up the carbs with your engine. Great time to ensure the new motors valves are in check. Killer powerful. A bit too much on old school GS750 suspension and braking bits but hey to each their own. You will need to fab custom plates... Easy



                I also swapped out my 750 oil pump gears too... Just before I pulled the basket out...


                I Used a Dyna-S and used the stock 750 coils.
                Last edited by Jedz123; 05-20-2016, 07:29 PM.
                Jedz Moto
                1988 Honda GL1500-6
                2002 Honda Reflex 250
                2018 Triumph Bonneville T120
                2023 Triumph Scrambler 1200XE
                Cages: '18 Subaru OB wagon 3.6R and '16 Mazda 3
                Originally posted by Hayabuser
                Cool is defined differently by different people... I'm sure the new rider down the block thinks his Ninja 250 is cool and why shouldn't he? Bikes are just cool.

                Comment


                  #9
                  it's a bolt in except for the center bottom triangles...
                  either leave them off or fab a pair of off center triangles.
                  the 750 does not have a cross brace on the front down tubes...depending on HP you can add the cross brace.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Sounds like an interesting and fun project. I will have to do this. Thank you all for your responses.

                    Terry
                    1980 Suzuki GS550E, 1981 Suzuki GS 1100EX all stock, 1983 Suzuki GS 1100EX modified, 1985 GS1150E, 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1971 Kawasaki Mach lll 500 H1, 1973 Kawasaki Mach lV 750 H2.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Our old drag bike was built on a 750 frame. We did have all billet engine mounts and engine threaded for bolts. This was so long ago mid eighties! It ran straight had a puppet swingarm and some chassis mods. If I remember correctly I also had the only round swingarm at attco and norwalk back then that I saw. That chassis was perfect ran 1.14 s in the 60 and our best back then were 8.54s at 15- plus in quarter. We used the 750 frame because we had bought a 750 race bike from Vance and Hines at that time. (which blew up in spectacular fashion shortly afterwards!!) The 1100 engines fit perfectly .

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X