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    ive customized all but the front end of my 82 gs850 does anyone know if there is an interchangeable fork or triple tree?

    #2
    Originally posted by clintonroberts1 View Post
    ive customized all but the front end of my 82 gs850 does anyone know if there is an interchangeable fork or triple tree?
    almost any suzuki front end is a direct bolt on. the choice is down to your imagination
    1978 GS1085.

    Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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      #3
      Whilst the stem & bearings are the same there are degrees of "bolt on".

      Some have a different amount of length or travel, all have different steerer stops, you'll need to work out how to attach gauges & ignition barrel, how to drive the speedo etc.

      None of the more modern front ends are exactly the same length or 100% bolt on, you always have to fabricate some parts.

      You also have to think about tyre choice & wheels as it's not recommended to use a more modern radial with the bias ply rear (you're rear is likely set as it's a shaft drive...) although some have.

      Dan
      1980 GS1000G - Sold
      1978 GS1000E - Finished!
      1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
      1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
      2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
      1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
      2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

      www.parasiticsanalytics.com

      TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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        #4
        Originally posted by salty_monk View Post
        Whilst the stem & bearings are the same there are degrees of "bolt on".

        Some have a different amount of length or travel, all have different steerer stops, you'll need to work out how to attach gauges & ignition barrel, how to drive the speedo etc.

        None of the more modern front ends are exactly the same length or 100% bolt on, you always have to fabricate some parts.

        You also have to think about tyre choice & wheels as it's not recommended to use a more modern radial with the bias ply rear (you're rear is likely set as it's a shaft drive...) although some have.

        Dan
        hence, why i said the choice is down to his imagination. how much work he wants to do or whether he just wants to bolt another front end on and ride it
        1978 GS1085.

        Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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          #5
          But no other models front end is a direct "bolt-on" even swapping Gs Model to GS model causes some of the above problems.

          Just making sure he understands it's not like changing fork oil.. it's not that simple.

          Some people seem to be lacking in the "imagination" dept until it's too late if some of the remnants on Craigslist & Ebay are to considered...

          1980 GS1000G - Sold
          1978 GS1000E - Finished!
          1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
          1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
          2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
          1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
          2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

          www.parasiticsanalytics.com

          TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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            #6
            all i am trying to say is that you can BOLT ON a gsxr front end as it is a direct replacement with no mods to steering head bearings etc but then you need the imagination and the knowledge to get it to work, as with all the little bits that come with it, like brakes and electrics etc
            1978 GS1085.

            Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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              #7
              We're from the same country & can't agree on terminology...

              To me a "bolt on" modification is one that just simply bolts on & works with nothing else left to do such as a Vance & Hines exhaust, Dyna S etc.

              Using my definition a front end is far from "bolt on". Although you physically can bolt it to the frame there is loads left to do to get it to work
              1980 GS1000G - Sold
              1978 GS1000E - Finished!
              1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
              1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
              2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
              1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
              2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

              www.parasiticsanalytics.com

              TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                #8
                Originally posted by salty_monk View Post
                We're from the same country & can't agree on terminology...

                To me a "bolt on" modification is one that just simply bolts on & works with nothing else left to do such as a Vance & Hines exhaust, Dyna S etc.

                Using my definition a front end is far from "bolt on". Although you physically can bolt it to the frame there is loads left to do to get it to work
                Dan,
                I think technically the forks "nut on" .
                Jim

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by salty_monk View Post
                  We're from the same country & can't agree on terminology...

                  To me a "bolt on" modification is one that just simply bolts on & works with nothing else left to do such as a Vance & Hines exhaust, Dyna S etc.

                  Using my definition a front end is far from "bolt on". Although you physically can bolt it to the frame there is loads left to do to get it to work
                  I could not agree more, the "Direct Bolt up" phrase that is refererred to so frequently on front end conversions here is some what misleading. I think it is safe to say the head bearings fit, beyond that its a whole new dimension.
                  Last edited by Guest; 10-03-2009, 06:04 PM.

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                    #10
                    gentlemen i appreciate the input i apologise for not being more specific i am quite versed in the specifics of going to a different front end ieignition barrel). i guess my question was do the triple tree or fork tubes interchange with any other make of bike. for example a friend of mine put a sportster front end on his xj650 to give it a drag bike look. i on the other hand am looking for longer fork tubes

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                      #11
                      If you are looking for longer fork tubes you are out of luck. Most of the newer forks are slightly shorter. For extended forks Look up forks by Frank. They can make any length you want

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                        #12
                        The cheapest way to get a longer fork is to run a GS750/700 monoshock front end but with your stock 850 19" front wheel instead of the stock 16".

                        That would gain you approx 2-3" extra depending on whether you used the 750 risers/clipons or mounted some risers on the top triple. I believe it may be a straight swap, you might need to mix & match speedo drives & spacers.

                        You'd also have to mess with the fender as it will need the mounting tabs extended to work.

                        I have a 750ES front end so can take measurements for you if necessary.. I might be persuaded to sell it complete for the right price too.

                        I guess it's possible you could mix & match internals so you got the longer fork tubes with the 850 lowers & triples, the tubes are the same dia but the triple is about 10mm wider.

                        Dan
                        1980 GS1000G - Sold
                        1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                        1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                        1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                        2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                        1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                        2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                        www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                        TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                          #13
                          For the love of God, please no more ruining a perfectly good motorcycle to achieve some sort of idiotic chopper look. Save that crap for the "I'm stupid enough to pay $60K for a barely functional Harley-based Discovery Channel wannabe" people.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RJ View Post
                            For the love of God, please no more ruining a perfectly good motorcycle to achieve some sort of idiotic chopper look. Save that crap for the "I'm stupid enough to pay $60K for a barely functional Harley-based Discovery Channel wannabe" people.
                            Wow...perfectly rational response to his question

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by clintonroberts1 View Post
                              gentlemen i appreciate the input i apologise for not being more specific i am quite versed in the specifics of going to a different front end ieignition barrel). i guess my question was do the triple tree or fork tubes interchange with any other make of bike. for example a friend of mine put a sportster front end on his xj650 to give it a drag bike look. i on the other hand am looking for longer fork tubes
                              i fitted 1100 katana forks on my gs, "direct" bolt on but slightly longer than stock forks
                              1978 GS1085.

                              Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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