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    Correct Way to Measure Chain Deflection/Brake Question

    So I put the new tires back on my bike tonight and ran across a couple of concerns. After putting the front wheel back on, tightening everything up to only hand tight (haven't torqued it yet), I'm hearing a dragging sound coming from the right caliper. I know it is specifically that one because I took off both calipers and respun the wheel - no sound. Put the left one on and respun - no sound. Put only the right one on and respun and it's dragging. I'll do some searching in a few but because of my other question below I wanted to include it in case I don't find anything. Will bleeding the front brakes fix that drag or do I have something else wrong? I know the piston for that one didn't engage although I can move the pads in with a screwdriver and get a little play. I will say the left piston fully engaged but I pushed it back out with a screwdriver and like I said no sound is coming from that side.

    For my second question, is this the right way to measure for the chain deflection? The Clymer's manual I have is hard to understand on this point. To me, it looks like I only have 3/4" movement (book calls for 3/4" to 1 3/16"). Again, back wheel isn't torqued down yet and I haven't checked to see if the rear brake is dragging yet. Even on the center stand the back tire is fully touching the ground. I don't know if that's a center stand issue or what. I'm thinking of putting a small block of wood under the center stand to give extra lift.





    Many thanks to my daughter for helping me out here.
    Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

    1981 GS550T - My First
    1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
    2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

    Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
    Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
    and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

    #2
    might just be the pic but that chain looks rough .

    Got any oil?

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      #3
      Yea I will clean it up and oil it after I know it is set right (just picked up some on Tuesday).

      Am I measuring it right? Does it look like it is within the settings I'm supposed to have or should I tighten it up some more? Is it possible to get it too tight? What happens if I do?
      Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

      1981 GS550T - My First
      1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
      2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

      Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
      Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
      and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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        #4
        The point where you want to measure your chain is when the two sprockets and the swingarm pivot are in a straight line.

        That is when the chain will be the tightest, so make sure it's not binding there and you should be good.

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          #5
          Steve I'm lost. Can you please draw me a picture on that one?
          Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

          1981 GS550T - My First
          1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
          2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

          Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
          Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
          and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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            #6
            Verbal picture:

            Remove the cover over the front sprocket. Notice where the center of the shaft is that holds the sprocket, hold a string there. Pull the string back to the center of the rear axle. If the bike is on the centerstand, the string will be lower than the swingarm pivot as it goes by. This puts the three points (the countershaft, the swingarm pivot and the rear axle) in a triangle. Use a ratchet strap to pull the rear wheel up until the three points are in a straight line. This is when the chain is the tightest.

            This is probably just a bit beyond where you normally load the suspension when you are riding, but it won't take much of a dip or a bump to get it there, so yes, it will happen often enough to worry about getting it right.

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            sigpic
            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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              #7
              I think I understand. But then what do the chain tensioners do at the rear of the bike? According to the book, I'm supposed to tighten each side equally until I have that 3/4" to 1 3/16" setting.
              Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

              1981 GS550T - My First
              1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
              2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

              Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
              Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
              and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                #8
                That chain looks shot..when was the last time it was replaced. I would also inspect your sprockets.

                Here is a picture that may help:

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                  #9
                  That chain does need to be replaced and is on my list to be done this winter along with both sprockets. But thank you for the picture Almarconi, that helps explain whether I'm doing this right. Essentially, I don't measure from the bottom of the chain but from the top of it. The picture in the book was pretty fuzzy so I wasn't sure of what I was doing.
                  Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                  1981 GS550T - My First
                  1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                  2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                  Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                  Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                  and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                    #10
                    Thanks all...got the chain set right I think.
                    Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                    1981 GS550T - My First
                    1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                    2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                    Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                    Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                    and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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