All brake parts are new but.......

[Steve]

You should not need any more opening of the system to do that. Either turn the handlebar so the M/C is angled properly or loosen it from the bar.
At the caliper, you might be able to pry the pads apart with out removing a caliper, but the worst you should have to do is remove one caliper from the fork leg, then pry the pads apart slightly. Same motion you would use to simply replace the pads.

With any luck, you will not have to open any bleeders or use any more fluid, the air will simply go into the reservoir. This is what some would call "reverse bleeding", where you force fluid into the system from the bottom. Only difference is that your system is already full, just need to move that last bubble.

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[raistian77]

You should not need any more opening of the system to do that. Either turn the handlebar so the M/C is angled properly or loosen it from the bar.
At the caliper, you might be able to pry the pads apart with out removing a caliper, but the worst you should have to do is remove one caliper from the fork leg, then pry the pads apart slightly. Same motion you would use to simply replace the pads.

With any luck, you will not have to open any bleeders or use any more fluid, the air will simply go into the reservoir. This is what some would call "reverse bleeding", where you force fluid into the system from the bottom. Only difference is that your system is already full, just need to move that last bubble.

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Hey Steve, just remember not to do this on a bike or vehicle that has ABS. reverse fluid flow can damage the solenoids.

[Steve]

Hey Steve, just remember not to do this on a bike or vehicle that has ABS. reverse fluid flow can damage the solenoids.

Thanks, good to know.

Does that mean that when it comes time to do the brake pads on my van that I need to open
the bleeders on the caliper to squeeze the pistons in to make room for the new pads?

Sounds cumbersome, but it will probably be time to change the fluid, anyway.

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[raistian77]

Thanks, good to know.

Does that mean that when it comes time to do the brake pads on my van that I need to open
the bleeders on the caliper to squeeze the pistons in to make room for the new pads?

Sounds cumbersome, but it will probably be time to change the fluid, anyway.

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Yes open the bleeders prior to pushing the pads back in.

Forcing Dirty Fluid Back into the ABS: [From Motor Service Magazine]

We believe the biggest brake bungle techs are making today is forcing caliper pistons back without clamping the hose and opening the bleeder. Since the line comes in near the bottom of the cylinder where the sediment is, this forces debris up into the ABS unit, and that will likely result in a comeback for a glowing anti-lock warning light. Just opening the bleeder as you may have done in the past isn't good enough anymore. You've got to choke off that hose. [Editor's note: you can buy inexpensive plastic pliers with rounded jaws designed to clamp rubber brake hoses without damage

they mention choking the hose

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[Billy Ricks]

I never knew that about ABS pad replacement. I'll have to be more careful in the future. So far no bad results from doing it the old way. I guess I was lucky I was working on vehicles that had clean fluid. I haven't set any sensors off yet. I've replaced front pads twice on our 350Z within about 40,000 miles. It goes through pads in a hurry. Next time it needs pads I'll probably replace the rotors with Brembos.

[Buddy]

Back in the spring, when I did my brakes, I used the reverse bleed trick. I found that I could hold the front tire and push the caliper in with my knee. Worked like a charm. Got that last little bubble out. Hope that helps.

Buddy

[cowboyup3371]

Honestly Nasty, what Steve said is the right thing. When I had my master cylinder fixed (needed the return port hole DRILLED out since Suzuki missed that one for some reason), I followed his advice by pressing it in. Once I hooked up the brake line and opened my bleeder, it was done within a couple of minutes.

Like some Bonanza and Raistian said, Steve is the one person on this forum of many who will drop everything he is doing to help you out. Trust me I know on this one. He's been the biggest Godsend to many on this forum and if we could he would be the GSR Member of the year if he wasn't so humble.

Glad it worked out for the most part for you.

[Suzuki_Don]

However, word from Mrs. Steve indicates we might be applying some time soon for a possible trip "down unda". .

Then make sure you pop in and see me in Sydney if you get the chance.

[Steve]

Then make sure you pop in and see me in Sydney if you get the chance.

Have not started with the plans yet, but we'll put you on the list.

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