Second time changing a tire...

[Guest]

Well, despite the lesson and the help on MotoGP weekend from bwringer with the front tire...I have to admit to being "tire-changing deficient."

Spent a chunk of time today trying to get the rear tire off...ended up taking a hacksaw to the tire to get it off the rim.

Then spent a couple of hours trying to get the first bead on the rim for the replacement. Not going to happen.

Looks like Cycle-Recycle II's $12 mounting job is in my future.

[allojohn]

Watch these videos a couple of times. Amazing, it's all technique. Although this guy could change a tire in 3 minutes I changed both tires today in about 45 mins. Rim protectors are a good idea.

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw0B2gIwbBg
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTata...eature=related

[themess]

The tires in the video are loose on the wheel. The wheels are steel and the tires have tubes. Therefore, he doesn't need to be concerned with the steel tire irons damaging the bead sealing surface on the inside of the rim. Yeah, it worked for him.

[oldrookie]

I watched him several times this morning, but I can't get the technique to work for me. Worked hard to keep the tire in the deep part of the rim, but still too tight to get the tire over the rim.

No way I can give a squeeze with a thumb and keep the tire down in the well either.

[silverramsrt]

I changed my tires not too long ago and it was difficult. I used 2 tire tools and while protecting the rim placed my foot on the tire too keep it down.

I wish it was this easy tho...

http://youtu.be/XOTesMX-Fmg

[Hoosier Daddy]

these helped me...
I used this method on my GL1100 that had tubeless.
Remove a tire video
SCUDMAN How to remove a motorcycle tire
then how to install
SCUDMAN How to install a motorcycle tire

Then this for the Tube type GS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6sH8WRl6yI

[themess]

I gave up trying to get my tires on the wheel. Took it to a man who has mounted thousands of tires. Still took him three minutes each for the second bead using his professional machine, after the wheel was clamped in.

[1_v8_merc]

I can install tubeless with no problem, but I don't **** with tube tires anymore.

My tools are too crude and puncture the tube.

Your right though, the videos usually have Example rims and tires that have been stretched and installed 100 times, they just barely push on the tire and it pops on....bull****!

It usually ain't that easy, you gotta have your mind Set on getting them on the rim, and just develop the technique.

[Sandy]

I just did both front and rear just recently. They're wires with tubes and I actually have the best luck doing them on the floor. Once I get the first bead started and about 1/2 of the way on what I do to keep the bead in the V part of the rim is literally climb on top with my knees on the part that's started to keep it down in the V and then just lever the rest of the bead over the rim. I then partially inflate the tube and stuff it in, once it's in I give it a little more air to make sure there are no kinks or wrinkles in it and the valve stem is square in the hole. I then pull the valve stem to fully deflate the tube. Then starting opposite the valve stem (valve stem at 12 o'clock) I repeat the procedure for mounting the first bead and ending at the valve stem. I've done lots this way, trust me, it doesn't look pretty but it works for me.

[oldrookie]

I suspect that the tire wasn't in the center, but I sure tried to get it there. Hate to bail out on the process, but free time is extremely limited at the moment.

I'd fight through it and figure it out, but knowing that a local shop will do the job for $12 sure makes it tough to want to keep going with it. Diminishing returns.

Having seen it done by someone who knows how to do it makes it clear that the issue is my technique. I just don't have the technique yet. Something to save for the next set of tires.

[Road_Clam]

Well, despite the lesson and the help on MotoGP weekend from bwringer with the front tire...I have to admit to being "tire-changing deficient."

Spent a chunk of time today trying to get the rear tire off...ended up taking a hacksaw to the tire to get it off the rim.

Then spent a couple of hours trying to get the first bead on the rim for the replacement. Not going to happen.

Looks like Cycle-Recycle II's $12 mounting job is in my future.

I've changed TONS of dirtbike tires over the past 25 years, and it's STILL can sometimes be a PIA !!! It's takes some practice and some technique that you have to learn for yourself. You really can't learn how to change a tire proefficiently from watching an online vid. I've changed a few street tires but prefer not to because I always manage to scratch the crap out of the rim. Here's a few tips that will help:

1) Try to dismount and mount a warm tire ! (set the wheel out in the hot sun for a few hours. A warm tire is a soft tire and the bead will stretch MUCH easier.

2) Use either soap and water or Armor All to lube the bead.

3) Use real quality tire spoons NOT large screwdrivers !!! (2 spoons is good, 3 is even better and easier )

4) jam a small socket between the inner rim lip and the tire bead. This forces the tire bead down inside the deepest section of the rim.

5) This is MOST IMPORTANT : DON'T RUSH !!!! If you rush the job you will end up with a pinched tube !

[bwringer]

Hey, bring it up to the "BWringer Motor Bike Garage" any time... PM sent!

[oldrookie]

Hey, bring it up to the "BWringer Motor Bike Garage" any time... PM sent!

Thank you! PM replied.

[oldrookie]

Well, BWRinger proved that it was a matter of technique and skill. Had the thing on in about 10 minutes.

Clearly, the correct selection was made for the Bard award.

Putting it back on the bike tomorrow night. Just in time for several days of below normal temps and rain.