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    #16
    Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
    What about taking 0.5mm off the pots? Or are the pads flat on the caliper when they are full retracted?
    that is an option. the pistons are wierd, they have some kind of material inside the pistons, almost like brake pad material.

    they look like these.........

    1978 GS1085.

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      #17
      I've not seen that before.

      Is the material proud of the steel piston like in the eBay image? Is it possible that it is compressing during application and then expanding upon release so while the piston retracts the insert material is taking up the rollback amount. That would still not explain why there is pressure in the hydraulic side that is relieved during bleeder opening.

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        #18
        yeah the material is about 2mm proud of the piston itself. i dont really think this material would compress otherwise this kind of problem could happen from the factory on new bikes. they are genuine Kawasaki pistons.
        i will investigate more tomorrow
        1978 GS1085.

        Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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          #19
          I may be wrong here, but I think that material inside the piston takes the place of and does the job of the old anti rattle springs and plates.
          I agree though, I dont see it causing a problem.
          Maybe a stupid question, but is your disc running true, exactly in the middle of your caliper carrier, not slightly off to one side maybe?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Flyboy View Post
            I may be wrong here, but I think that material inside the piston takes the place of and does the job of the old anti rattle springs and plates.
            I agree though, I dont see it causing a problem.
            Maybe a stupid question, but is your disc running true, exactly in the middle of your caliper carrier, not slightly off to one side maybe?
            the disc is dead in the middle of the caliper and is 100% running true
            1978 GS1085.

            Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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              #21
              ok, just tested the caliper on an old RF900 disc, 5mm thick but it measures 4.7mm due to wear. the caliper works fine now, releases the disc when lever is pulled and released, so something has to be shaved. gonna try the "material off the pistons first see how hard that is, if not then a trip out to get the pads skimmed
              1978 GS1085.

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                #22
                Crazy to skim 4 pistons per caliper. I'd deal with the pads.
                Ed

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                  #23
                  I would deal with the pads also rather then the complexity of those pistons.

                  But more of an issue with me is do you still have residual pressure in the hydraulics with the thinner disc relieved by opening the bleeder?

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                    #24
                    You sure the pistons are all the way back in to the cailper body. Maybe cracking the bleeder as suggested would give you that little bit more you need???
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                      #25
                      SUCCESS......... i have shaved off 1/2 mm off the "material" on each of the pistons. it is almost like hard wood sort of composition and was easy to file down.
                      All back together again and bled through and it works perfect.
                      Jack, i think the residual pressure was due to the pistons being pushed out but not quite reaching the roll back point so they were being pushed out but didnt have the rollback action from the seals, so they just sat there until pressure was released,(by the bleeder).
                      anyways, all sorted now, many thanks for all your help and ideas everyone.....
                      1978 GS1085.

                      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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