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    #16
    and there's this:
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    Don't say can't, as anything is possible with time and effort, but, if you don't have time things get tougher and require more effort.

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      #17
      Originally posted by tatu View Post
      Adrian, try here, I was looking for the tyre size and rim suitability chart I used the one here on this site : http://users.powernet.co.uk/cwc/broc...c_brochure.pdf

      I also checke dup on acouple of others when I was researching the wheels for my GS. I've been looking and they are on the net, I'll look a bit more.
      But an inch does sound like a lot to soak up on the rim.
      cheers mate, but i am only talking a difference of 10mm in width, not an inch.
      i have found my own answer now but cheers for looking......
      1978 GS1085.

      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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        #18
        Originally posted by Agemax View Post
        cheers mate, but i am only talking a difference of 10mm in width, not an inch.
        i have found my own answer now but cheers for looking......
        Here is a side by side picture of a 170/60-18 compared to a 4.5x18" wheel and a 5.5x17" wheel.

        That tire is measuring at 6 9/16" or 167mm (v.s. 170mm) meaning it would appear to be squeezed a bit on that 4.5" wheel.

        I also looked at the side profile to see where the widest spot is. My guess is that the total width at the bead would move out by 1.0" (difference between 4.5" and 5.5") and so the side wall width will move out approximately 1/2 of that distance ( 0.500" or 12.75mm ) if mounted on a 5.5" wheel.

        So the total width of this tire mounted on a 5.5" rim is going to be 167+12.75=179.75 mm you are basically back where you supposedly started with the 180/55 tire.

        Bottom line is that the actual fitted width of a tire is going to be a function of both the stated size and the rim width.
        The link that you posted does not consider rim width, so your fundamental assumption about sizing is going to lead you into a circle. (i.e. back where you started).


        Further to my comment about profile, as mounted the tire is only -3 mm off in total width. Adding +12.75 mm you will be off by +10 mm in the other direction. This is going to flatten the profile and probably make the tire a little harder to roll into turns.


        here is a link explaining for car tires.

        The width of the rim will influence the width of the tire. A tire mounted on a narrow rim would be "narrower" than if the same size tire was mounted on a wide rim. NOTE: Because the overall diameter of a steel-belted radial is essentially determined by the steel belts, there is little, if any, change to the overall diameter of the tire due to differences in rim width.
        The industry rule of thumb is that for every 1/2" change in rim width, the tire's section width will correspondingly change by approximately 2/10".



        That 40% rule of thumb is for car tires, I used a 50% rule for the motorcycle tire due to the very wide widths.
        Last edited by posplayr; 06-20-2013, 04:17 PM.

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          #19
          I just installed a Bridgestone Battlax BT 021 170/60/17 on my 5.5" Bandit wheel. Mounted up with no issues. Easily seated when air was added.

          Edit:Installed width of 172.9mm @34 psi.

          HTH's
          Daryl
          Last edited by Fjbj40; 06-20-2013, 05:20 PM.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
            I just installed a 170 60 on my 5.5" wheel. Mounted up with no issues. Easily seated when air was added.

            HTH's
            Daryl
            can you measure the width of the tire, extreme edges please?
            what make of tire is it just to be curious?
            1978 GS1085.

            Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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              #21
              Originally posted by Agemax View Post
              can you measure the width of the tire, extreme edges please?
              what make of tire is it just to be curious?
              Did you see this? According to this chart, your rim is spot on for the 170.

              http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/...Size_Chart.pdf
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                #22
                Originally posted by tatu View Post
                Did you see this? According to this chart, your rim is spot on for the 170.

                http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/...Size_Chart.pdf
                yes mate i did thanks. did you also see post #15?
                the 1990 GSXR750 came standard with a 170/60 on a 5.5" rim
                1978 GS1085.

                Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Agemax View Post
                  can you measure the width of the tire, extreme edges please?
                  what make of tire is it just to be curious?
                  I placed a straight edge on each side of the tire and the measurement given was from a vernier caliper.

                  Original post was edited for type of tire.

                  Cheers,
                  Daryl
                  1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                  1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                  I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
                    I just installed a Bridgestone Battlax BT 021 170/60/17 on my 5.5" Bandit wheel. Mounted up with no issues. Easily seated when air was added.

                    Edit:Installed width of 172.9mm @34 psi.

                    HTH's
                    Daryl
                    thats what i expected to hear, thankyou Daryl. i know every tire manufacturer will be slightly different but 7mm width saving, (3.5mm each side) will be perfect.
                    i actually have a battlax BT54 and was planning on staying with the BT range if i could.
                    my 180 fitted measures exactly 180mm by the way.
                    1978 GS1085.

                    Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                      #25
                      A 180 tire is the biggest tire you want to put on a 5.5 wheel so a 170 would fit fine if not better and the difference in a 180 and a 170 is 10mm the measurements are in mm 170/60/17 170mm wide / the 60 is the % of the 170mm or equal to 102mm sidewall height and the 17 is in ''
                      Last edited by stetracer; 06-20-2013, 07:06 PM.
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