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    Can I run tubeless

    tires on my stock wheel 79 GS 1000? I have looked at the wheel but did not see any reference to useing tubeless tires.

    Have Shinko R230 tubeless tire. What say ye experts?

    Thanks,

    Larry
    Larry

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    #2
    Sure, a lot of us do. And some don't. But it works if you care to try.
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      #3
      Some people convert to tubeless, but I'm not one of them. Various pros and cons that have been hashed out numerous times in older threads. One such thread here...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=177136
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        #4
        i had to drill out the valve stem hole a bit. i've done it to a few so far. they all worked fine.
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          #5
          I'd use a tube for your application.

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            #6
            Yes, you can definitely use a tubeless tire.

            However, the question you should be asking is whether you should also use a tube inside that tubeless tire.

            The wheels on your bike were not certified for tubeless use, but, like the others have said, some have tried it and were successful.

            The main problem is that the early cast wheels tended to be a bit porous, allowing air to escape. The use of a tube is highly recommended, but you might also get away with coating the inside of the rim with epoxy to seal it.

            Also hinted above was the fact that you might have to drill the hole to properly fit a tubeless valve stem. Depending on the shape of your rim, you might also need to machine a recess for the inside face of the stem to seat properly.

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              #7
              Originally posted by alke46 View Post
              tires on my stock wheel 79 GS 1000? I have looked at the wheel but did not see any reference to useing tubeless tires.

              Have Shinko R230 tubeless tire. What say ye experts?

              Thanks,

              Larry
              There isnt a reference to tubeless wheels as they ARENT tubeless wheels. There missing the inner step inside the rim. Can do what you want but its only one more thing out there trying to get u killed. What would i know. only fitted tyres for nearly 20 yrs at Tyres For Bikes in Australia.

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                #8
                There isnt a reference to tubeless wheels as they ARENT tubeless wheels. There missing the inner step inside the rim. Can do what you want but its only one more thing out there trying to get u killed. What would i know. only fitted tyres for nearly 20 yrs at Tyres For Bikes in Australia.
                So what you are saying is that he should use a tube..is that correct?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sharpy View Post
                  There isnt a reference to tubeless wheels as they ARENT tubeless wheels. There missing the inner step inside the rim.
                  Sharpy, while I respect your time in the business, I have to disagree just a bit. I used to think that, too, but I recently changed a tire on an '81 550L.
                  It had that "inner step", but was NOT marked "Tubeless Tire Applicable" like the rims are on my bikes.

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                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                    #10
                    I just put new tires a month ago on my 78 1000 and the rims did not say tubeless. I drilled out the stem hole to accept a universal bolt on stem. The tires seated just fine.

                    I personally don't see where there is any difference between the rims that say tubeless and the ones that don't.. except the hole and the stamp. I am under the impression that they did not make tubeless tires in 78, and that is why they didn't think to stamp the rims.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gregory View Post
                      I just put new tires a month ago on my 78 1000 and the rims did not say tubeless. I drilled out the stem hole to accept a universal bolt on stem. The tires seated just fine.

                      I personally don't see where there is any difference between the rims that say tubeless and the ones that don't.. except the hole and the stamp. I am under the impression that they did not make tubeless tires in 78, and that is why they didn't think to stamp the rims.
                      Sorry, but this is incorrect.

                      Tubeless wheels have a different rim profile. There is a hump on the profile so when the tire bead is seated it fits over the inner hump and is constrained on the outside by the wheel lip. If you deflate, the inner hump will keep the tire from separating away from the seated position on the bead. For this reason tubeless is safer.
                      Last edited by Nessism; 08-29-2013, 08:13 AM.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                        Sorry, but this is incorrect.

                        Tubeless wheels have a different rim profile. There is a hump on the profile so when the tire bead is seated it fits over the inner hump and is constrained on the outside by the wheel lip. If you deflate, the inner hump will keep the tire from separating away from the seated position on the bead. For this reason tubeless is safer.

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                          #13
                          If you have a deflation at speed, neither tubeless or tubed is safe so whats the point, really.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                            If you have a deflation at speed, neither tubeless or tubed is safe so whats the point, really.
                            Tubeless wheels hold the tire on the bead much better in this instance. Safer to be sure.

                            As to whether or not a tube will assist in a pressure loss at speed situation with a tube type wheel, that's debateable.
                            Last edited by Nessism; 08-29-2013, 11:46 AM.
                            Ed

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                              #15
                              Here is another helpful thread

                              This forum contains old posts which may have information which may be useful. It is a closed forum in that you can not post here any longer. Please post your questions in the other technical forums.

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