Can I run tubeless

[rustybronco]

This is nothing more than my personal take on the matter. If at speed, running without a tube on a tube only type rim, you wouldn't have the added safety of a tubes ability to slowly deflate if the tire did get punctured.

I'm planning on running tubes on the GS1000E and do run tubes on the '80.

FWIW.

[Pete's GS]

No, tubes don't slowly deflate. They go bang. Though some people run tubeless tires on the stock GS mags that otherwise call for tubes, I wouldn't do it. I'd get new tires, new tubes, and use Slime to prevent flats. Slime works well.

[tkent02]

Slime works well.

Not as well with tubes as without. Inner tubes tend to rip, or get longer cuts where a tubeless tire will just puncture. Sealants like Slime or RideOn can't do much to seal a rip or a slice, but it works great on punctures.

Of course it all depends on what kind of damage, what you run over, etc.

[Badooka]

Running a tube in a tubless tire is moronic where one isn't necessary- you actually lower the tires effective heat range and add in, an unsafe situation to a relatively safe one. Not to mention shortening the life of the tire and quite possibly your own.
Be aware that fitting a tube reduces the speed rating of the tyre, so a W-rated tyre that’s good for 167mph, becomes an H-rated tyre that has a maximum rating of 130mph.

[rustybronco]

No, tubes don't slowly deflate. They go bang.

Not always...

[Nessism]

Gotten lots of flats with tubes, and never once heard a bang.

Guess I'm a moron, because I use tubes with tube type wheels, even though the tires can go both ways (tube or tubeless).

[Badooka]

Gotten lots of flats with tubes, and never once heard a bang.

Guess I'm a moron, because I use tubes with tube type wheels, even though the tires can go both ways (tube or tubeless).

You said it.

[sharpy]

Sharpy, while I respect your time in the business, I have to disagree just a bit. I used to think that, too, but I recently changed a tire on an '81 550L.
It had that "inner step", but was NOT marked "Tubeless Tire Applicable" like the rims are on my bikes.

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Yes thats all good. But if we knew the bike rolled out the door and we did the job "right" at least we haad our arses covered it something happened and there was a insurance company looking for a excuse. I have writing a few times about this situtation and i say do what you want but personally/professionally i wouldnt do it. Always up the the person to listen to all the advice and go from there. NP i say

"Be aware that fitting a tube reduces the speed rating of the tyre, so a W-rated tyre that’s good for 167mph, becomes an H-rated tyre that has a maximum rating of 130mph." Mmmm looks at top of screen and checks. yep its a GS forum. H rated tyres are "safe" for substained 130mph speeds. i have a semi tough GS1000 and i have never did a trip at sustained 130mph. maybe im a woose. All i type is what i know, up to the person to listen to what is written. Have a safe ride tubeless or not.

[gsgeezer]

Gotten lots of flats with tubes, and never once heard a bang.
Guess I'm a moron, because I use tubes with tube type wheels, even though the tires can go both ways (tube or tubeless).

Another moron chiming in.

[Badooka]

So just to be sure of the mindset here, shops won't do it because of liability issues meaning a fault in the legal logic of doing so( a tube in a tubless tire). From a longevity point it lowers the wear and the heat range of the tyre. And then from a safety issue, lowering heat range of a stated range and wear indication. So from a cost, saeftey, and legal argument the choice is made to do so because you can. That's amazing.
Like it was said- your decision.

[Steve]

If you look closely at the side of a "TUBELESS" tire, it also has words similar to "On tube-type rim, fit tube."

It's not a matter of being a moron for fitting a tube in a "tubeless" tire, it's more a matter of being safety-minded enough to ensure that the air remains where it's intended, when using a wheel with questionable porosity.

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[Badooka]

If you look closely at the side of a "TUBELESS" tire, it also has words similar to "On tube-type rim, fit tube."

It's not a matter of being a moron for fitting a tube in a "tubeless" tire, it's more a matter of being safety-minded enough to ensure that the air remains where it's intended, when using a wheel with questionable porosity.

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I understand that for the bikes that originally ran tubes, my point is to the bikes designed to run on tubeless and putting a tube in, it's pointless.

[gsgeezer]

If you look closely at the side of a "TUBELESS" tire, it also has words similar to "moron"

How about " tubeless moron"?

[sharpy]

I understand that for the bikes that originally ran tubes, my point is to the bikes designed to run on tubeless and putting a tube in, it's pointless.

Yes thats correct. but the original thread starter runs a 79 gs1000 that isnt tubleless. how we get so sidetracked?

[Badooka]

Ambiguity on the subject- all chime in to give 2 cents but on an issue like this where someone can get hurt, I'll risk looking dumb rather than bad advice. For certain no one would want a fellow GS'er getting hurt- that's my stance.