Can I run tubeless

[Nessism]

I don't think anyone is advocating using a tube on a tubeless type wheel.

Also, "tubeless" tires are safe to use with a tube as Steve mentions.

The question at hand is should Tube Type wheels be converted to run Tubeless. The answer to that is less clear.

[Steve]

... how we get so sidetracked?

You're new here, aren't you?

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[Tamara]

FWIW, I've always used a tube in for the tires on my bike and knock on wood, I've never had any serious tire related issues.

[chuck hahn]

Well in his initial post he just says stock wheels on his 79 1000..but is this the stock wire wheel or mag wheel version...that's not mentioned. The 79 in his signature is an E model which SHOULD have mags..but I assume nothing. If it was an N model it should have the wire rims.

Wire rims always need a tube and rim protection boot so the spokes don't rub thru.

Mags however aren't always marked as for tubeless use or not. So , like Gregory said, to drill the hole to accept a standard tubeless valve stem would let one run tubeless on a mag rim that was not otherwise marked for tubeless use. J

I think the question was more like this..IF a mag rim isn't marked for tubeless use, can you still run it tubeless? Short answer is yes..if modding the stem hole and doing so is what you want to do.

This isn't an endorsement or anything of the sort on my part..I am simply saying that yes it can be done. Weigh your options and act according to what you, yourself, gauges as appropriate.

[sharpy]

You're new here, aren't you?

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No not new, just had a break as my hand and forehead was getting sore from slapping each other. FYI i said forehead NOT fore#%%#. Thought i confirm that before Simon popped his head in and said something

[alke46]

Well in his initial post he just says stock wheels on his 79 1000..but is this the stock wire wheel or mag wheel version...that's not mentioned. The 79 in his signature is an E model which SHOULD have mags..but I assume nothing. If it was an N model it should have the wire rims.

Wire rims always need a tube and rim protection boot so the spokes don't rub thru.

Mags however aren't always marked as for tubeless use or not. So , like Gregory said, to drill the hole to accept a standard tubeless valve stem would let one run tubeless on a mag rim that was not otherwise marked for tubeless use. J

I think the question was more like this..IF a mag rim isn't marked for tubeless use, can you still run it tubeless? Short answer is yes..if modding the stem hole and doing so is what you want to do.

This isn't an endorsement or anything of the sort on my part..I am simply saying that yes it can be done. Weigh your options and act according to what you, yourself, gauges as appropriate.

Chuck is right on target again. Yes my ride is the E model with mag wheels.

I have the tube inserted but am having a problem with the seating of the bead. Do I have to hear the "pop" to know that the bead is seated?

I cannot make this thing pop for anything. I had it assembled once and could not make it pop, so I took it apart again and cleaned the bead area with steel wool and soaped the tire but still cannot get this thing to pop.

Any suggestions?

Also noted as Steve pointed out that the tire has been stamped tubeless but also states to use a tube on tube type rim.

[alke46]

Also, other than soapy water, what kind of lubricants can be used in bead setting?

[Nessism]

Some tires don't pop when seated, particularly when seating on tube type wheels.

Oh, and soap and water is not the proper lubricant since some soaps are corrosive to aluminum. Using a proper tire lube is the best stuff to use.

[alke46]

Some tires don't pop when seated, particularly when seating on tube type wheels.

Oh, and soap and water is not the proper lubricant since some soaps are corrosive to aluminum. Using a proper tire lube is the best stuff to use.

Thanks Ed. I have come to learn to respect your input.

[Nessism]

Most tires have a molding line at the edge of the tire bead. With the tire installed this line should be uniformly spaced relative to the edge of the wheel. This is how you know the tire is seated. Make sense?

[Gregory]

Neither of mine "popped" but hold air perfectly. I did not use any sealant, just a little windex or something laying around to get the rubber back on the rim. I didn't want to soak everything because I knew I was going to be adding beads (like dyna beads) to the inside and didn't want too much moisture.

[gsgeezer]

On my "N" (spokes) I got tubes.

[alke46]

Most tires have a molding line at the edge of the tire bead. With the tire installed this line should be uniformly spaced relative to the edge of the wheel. This is how you know the tire is seated. Make sense?

Yes, it does make sense and mine are at the edge of the wheel, looking properly concentric around the wheel, both sides. I just thought it had to pop to be properly seated. Thanks again.

Larry

[mcycle-nut]

I didn't realize my '82 1100E was supposed to have tubes, as they never had them. I guess a PO had decided to run without. I ran for years that way. A couple of years ago, after reading a few of these posts, I fitted tubes when I replaced tires, as they are supposed to be there. Rather odd my '82 requires tubes, whereas my wife's '82 GS850 has tubeless wheels.

[sharpy]

I didn't realize my '82 1100E was supposed to have tubes, as they never had them. I guess a PO had decided to run without. I ran for years that way. A couple of years ago, after reading a few of these posts, I fitted tubes when I replaced tires, as they are supposed to be there. Rather odd my '82 requires tubes, whereas my wife's '82 GS850 has tubeless wheels.

More odd is the first 850 ran tubeless front and tubed rear(in Australia anyway)