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    Front brake issue: Possible airleak?

    Ive been trying for days to get my front brakes on my gs850 working properly. I can buildup pressure if I pump the brakes enough times but if i let them sit for a few seconds they will go back to being spongey. The calipers have been rebuilt and there doesnt seem to be any fluid leaking from the calipers I have bled the brakes numerous times and there are no fluid leaks along the lines and joints. I am at wits end here!! Any ideas on what could be going on?
    1978 Suzuki GS750

    Past bikes owned:
    1978 Suzuki GS750E, 1979 Suzuki GS750E, 1980 Suzuki GS850, 1977 Suzuki GS550, 1969 Honda CB350, 1976 Harley Davidson SS175, 1979 Motobecane 50V, 1978 Puch Maxi, 1977 Puch Newport, 1980 Tomos Bullet, 1978 Motobecane 50VLA, 1978 AMF Roadmaster

    #2
    I have the opposite...I can't get any pressure. I'll have to remove the caliper and double-check the seal that wraps around the piston. I had a bear of a time getting it to fit properly and now I see why it needs to seat correctly.

    Good luck figuring it out...maybe you need to EVAL and check all the seals.


    Ed
    GS750TZ V&H/4-1, Progressive Shocks, Rebuilt MC/braided line, Tarozzi Stabilizer[Seq#2312]
    GS750TZ Parts Bike [Seq#6036]
    GSX-R750Y (Sold)

    my opinion shouldn't be taken as gospel or in any way that would lead you to believe otherwise (30Sep2021)
    Originally posted by GSXR7ED
    Forums are pretty much unrecognizable conversations; simply because it's a smorgasbord of feedback...from people we don't know. It's not too difficult to ignore the things that need to be bypassed.

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      #3
      Most likely, one of the seals in the master cylinder has a rupture/tear and the fluid is by-passing internally. Or installed backwards. Has anyone been inside it? Not too difficult to repair.

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        #4
        Can you post a pic of your caliper?

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          #5
          Did you use OEM caliper seals or K&L? I've seen this with aftermarket seals because they were too tight and wouldn't let the piston adjust to the proper position away from the disc.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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            #6
            ***Informational Only***

            While we're waiting for OP to post up pics and since this is relevant, here's my install of OEM parts for my caliper. I think when you look at the last pic you'll notice I don't have a proper seal.













            I'll remove the caliper and get a better seal today.


            Ed
            GS750TZ V&H/4-1, Progressive Shocks, Rebuilt MC/braided line, Tarozzi Stabilizer[Seq#2312]
            GS750TZ Parts Bike [Seq#6036]
            GSX-R750Y (Sold)

            my opinion shouldn't be taken as gospel or in any way that would lead you to believe otherwise (30Sep2021)
            Originally posted by GSXR7ED
            Forums are pretty much unrecognizable conversations; simply because it's a smorgasbord of feedback...from people we don't know. It's not too difficult to ignore the things that need to be bypassed.

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              #7
              tutorial

              There's a tutorial on BassCliff's site showing how to properly install that dust seal. You should be putting it into the caliper groove first, then finagle the piston in. The dust seal will snap into the groove in the piston once you push it down all the way. Check out the tutorial, it has good pics.

              1983 GS750ED-Horsetraded for the Ironhead
              1981 HD XLH

              Drew's 850 L Restoration

              Drew's 83 750E Project

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                #8
                Install the dust boot over the piston and slide it down as far as you can. Then put the boot into the caliper groove before you install the piston into the caliper bore. Brake fluid lube will help the parts slide together. Once the piston is in the bore there is almost no way to get the boot into the caliper groove, it must be installed prior.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

                Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                  #9
                  Thanks guys...and OP...look at the tutorial...we both need to learn something here.


                  Ed
                  GS750TZ V&H/4-1, Progressive Shocks, Rebuilt MC/braided line, Tarozzi Stabilizer[Seq#2312]
                  GS750TZ Parts Bike [Seq#6036]
                  GSX-R750Y (Sold)

                  my opinion shouldn't be taken as gospel or in any way that would lead you to believe otherwise (30Sep2021)
                  Originally posted by GSXR7ED
                  Forums are pretty much unrecognizable conversations; simply because it's a smorgasbord of feedback...from people we don't know. It's not too difficult to ignore the things that need to be bypassed.

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