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    Unknown washer in GS400 swingarm

    Just want to clarify this is my first post. I used the search function but may have missed something.

    So my dad recently gave me his 78' GS400 (my first bike) that hasn't been ridden since he estimates 1983. Regardless, I've been going through it and over the past few days removed the rear wheel assembly and took off the swingarm to lube the spacers, needle bearings, pivot bolt, etc

    I took out the spacers and while i was lubing the needle bearings with my finger I felt a thin washer floating freely in the tube-- it looked to be about the size and thickness of a key ring maybe slightly bigger. Looking at the Clymers manual there were no pieces in the diagram that fit what it was.

    Could it have been part of the cage the needle bearings are housed in? And should I be worried? I dismissed it earlier and reattached the swingarm to the frame but now it's troubling me.

    -NewRider

    #2
    Originally posted by NewRider View Post
    Just want to clarify this is my first post. I used the search function but may have missed something.

    So my dad recently gave me his 78' GS400 (my first bike) that hasn't been ridden since he estimates 1983. Regardless, I've been going through it and over the past few days removed the rear wheel assembly and took off the swingarm to lube the spacers, needle bearings, pivot bolt, etc

    I took out the spacers and while i was lubing the needle bearings with my finger I felt a thin washer floating freely in the tube-- it looked to be about the size and thickness of a key ring maybe slightly bigger. Looking at the Clymers manual there were no pieces in the diagram that fit what it was.

    Could it have been part of the cage the needle bearings are housed in? And should I be worried? I dismissed it earlier and reattached the swingarm to the frame but now it's troubling me.

    -NewRider
    Okay, how about a pic of the offending washer?
    sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
    1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
    2015 CAN AM RTS


    Stuff I've done to my bike 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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      #3
      try here and see if you can spot it.


      or back a few steps to here
      ✓ Suzuki spare parts for GS400 Motorcycle. ✓ Swift delivery ✓ Original Suzuki GS400 parts

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        #4
        number 10 probably
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Whatever it is isn't listed on the diagram in the Clymers manual and I couldn't find it on cmsnl.com . I have some garage time tonight that I need to use remove the carbs so I can have them cleaned and synced but if I can get to it I'll try and snap a couple of pics tonight. I'm not even sure if my camera will be able to capture what needs to be seen but I'll try. The "ring" (more of a ring than a washer) was not removable from the swingarm tube I tried to pull it through the bearings after removing all the spacers but it was too big.

          Thanks, for the replies everyone. I'll try and get pics up by the end of the week.

          Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
          try here and see if you can spot it.


          or back a few steps to here
          http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs400_model13419/

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            #6
            I think that its probably the inner wall of the bearing race.

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              #7
              Originally posted by JEEPRUSTY View Post
              I think that its probably the inner wall of the bearing race.
              Jeep I think you're right. That is what I originally suspected but I'm new to wrenching and didn't have the technical vocabulary to say that. A few questions:
              1. Is it a big deal if the wall is off the bearing race?
              2. Can I ride with it like that?
              3. Do I need to replace the bearing or can I re-seat it?

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                #8
                If it is indeed the inner wall you need to replace it. You needle bearing will start to come apart if you don't. Probably still available through Suzuki
                1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
                80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
                1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished
                83 gs750ed- first new purchase
                85 EX500- vintage track weapon
                1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
                “Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
                If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing

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                  #9
                  Bearings are a tad expensive but I would replace it.
                  edit.

                  21 bucks or so at alph sports so not bad at all
                  replace both and forget about them for 36 more years

                  Part # = 09263-22017
                  Part Description = ROLLER BEARING (22X29X3
                  Model Count = 187
                  GS400B 1977 398 GS400 STREET
                  GS550B 1977 549 GS550 STREET
                  GS400XB 1977 398 GS400X STREET
                  GS750B 1977 748 GS750 STREET
                  GS400C 1978 398 GS400 STREET
                  GS400XC 1978 398 GS400X STREET
                  GS550EC 1978 549 GS550E STREET
                  GS750EC 1978 748 GS750E STREET
                  GS550C 1978 549 GS550 STREET
                  GS750C 1978 748 GS750 STREET
                  GS425N 1979 425 GS425 STREET
                  GS750N 1979 748 GS750 STREET
                  GS425LN 1979 425 GS425L STREET
                  GS750LN 1979 748 GS750L STREET
                  GS550LN 1979 549 GS550L STREET
                  GS550N 1979 549 GS550 STREET
                  GS450ET 1980 448 GS450E STREET
                  GS550ET 1980 549 GS550E STREET
                  GS250TT 1980 250 GS250T STREET
                  GS450LT 1980 448 GS450L STREET
                  GN400LT 1980 400 GN400L STREET
                  GS550LT 1980 549 GS550L STREET
                  GS750LT 1980 748 GS750L STREET
                  GS750ET 1980 748 GS750E STREET
                  GN400TX 1981 400 GN400T STREET
                  GS250TX 1981 250 GS250T STREET
                  GS450EX 1981 448 GS450E STREET
                  GS450TX 1981 448 GS450T STREET
                  GS750EX 1981 748 GS750E STREET
                  GS750LX 1981 748 GS750L STREET
                  GS550LX 1981 549 GS550L STREET
                  GS550TX 1981 549 GS550T STREET
                  GS450LX 1981 448 GS450L STREET
                  GS650EX 1981 673 GS650E STREET
                  GS650EZ 1982 673 GS650E STREET
                  GN400TZ 1982 400 GN400T STREET
                  GS300LZ 1982 300 GS300L STREET
                  GS450EZ2 1982 1/2 448 GS450E STREET
                  GS550LZ 1982 549 GS550L STREET
                  GS450LZ 1982 448 GS450L STREET
                  GS450EZ 1982 448 GS450E STREET
                  GS550MZ 1982 549 GS550M KATANA STREET
                  GSX750EZ 1982 747 GSX750E STREET
                  GS450TZ 1982 448 GS450T STREET
                  GS750TZ 1982 748 GS750T STREET
                  GSX750TD 1983 747 GSX750T STREET
                  GS300LD 1983 300 GS300L STREET
                  GS450LD 1983 448 GS450L STREET
                  GS450TXD 1983 448 GS450TX STREET
                  GSX550ED 1983 572 GSX550E STREET
                  GR650D 1983 650 GR650 TEMPTER STREET
                  GS300LF 1985 300 GS300L STREET
                  DR250SES 1985 250 DR250SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GS450LF 1985 448 GS450L STREET
                  GS450LG 1986 448 GS450L STREET
                  LS650G 1986 652 LS650 SAVAGE CRUISER
                  LS650H 1987 652 LS650 SAVAGE CRUISER
                  LT300EH 1987 300 LT300E ATV
                  VS1400GLH 1987 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  GS450LH 1987 448 GS450L STREET
                  LT300EJ 1988 300 LT300E ATV
                  GSX600FJ 1988 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  LS650J 1988 652 LS650 SAVAGE CRUISER
                  GS450LJ 1988 448 GS450L STREET
                  VS1400GLJ 1988 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  GS500EK 1989 487 GS500E STREET
                  GSX600FK 1989 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  RM250K 1989 246 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  RMX250K 1989 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  GSX750FK 1989 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  LT300EK 1989 300 LT300E ATV
                  GSX600FL 1990 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  DR350SL 1990 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
                  RMX250L 1990 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  VS1400GLL 1990 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  DR350L 1990 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FL 1990 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  DR250L 1990 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
                  DR250SL 1990 250 DR250S DUAL PURPOSE
                  RM250L 1990 246 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  GS500EL 1990 487 GS500E STREET
                  RM250M 1991 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  GS500EM 1991 487 GS500E STREET
                  DR350M 1991 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FM 1991 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  RMX250M 1991 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  DR350SM 1991 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
                  DR250SM 1991 250 DR250S DUAL PURPOSE
                  VS1400GLM 1991 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  GSX600FM 1991 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  DR250M 1991 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
                  VS1400GLN 1992 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  RM250N 1992 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  GS500EN 1992 487 GS500E STREET
                  DR350N 1992 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  RMX250N 1992 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  DR250N 1992 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
                  RM125N 1992 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  DR350SN 1992 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FN 1992 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  DR250SN 1992 250 DR250S DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX600FN 1992 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  DR350P 1993 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  DR250SEP 1993 250 DR250SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  VS1400GLP 1993 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  DR250P 1993 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FP 1993 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  RMX250P 1993 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  GSX600FP 1993 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  GS500EP 1993 487 GS500E STREET
                  DR350SP 1993 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
                  RM250P 1993 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  RM125P 1993 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  DR350R 1994 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  RM250R 1994 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  RM125R 1994 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  DR350SER 1994 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  DR250SER 1994 250 DR250SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FR 1994 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  RMX250R 1994 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  GS500ER 1994 487 GS500E STREET
                  GSX600FR 1994 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  VS1400GLR 1994 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  LS650PS 1995 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
                  RMX250S 1995 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  RM250S 1995 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  RM125S 1995 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  VS1400GLS 1995 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
                  DR350S 1995 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  DR350SES 1995 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FS 1995 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  GS500ES 1995 487 GS500E STREET
                  GSX600FS 1995 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  DR650SET 1996 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  RM250T 1996 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  RMX250T 1996 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  DR350SET 1996 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX600FT 1996 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  DR350T 1996 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FT 1996 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  RM125T 1996 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  GS500EW 1996 487 GS500E STREET
                  GS500ET 1996 487 GS500E STREET
                  LS650PT 1996 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
                  VS1400GLPT 1996 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
                  RM125V 1997 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  DR650SEV 1997 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FV 1997 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  RM250V 1997 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  DR350V 1997 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  GS500EV 1997 487 GS500E STREET
                  DR350SEV 1997 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX600FV 1997 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  RMX250V 1997 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  VS1400GLPV 1997 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
                  LS650PV 1997 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
                  LS650PW 1998 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
                  DR350W 1998 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX600FW 1998 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  RMX250W 1998 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
                  RM250W 1998 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  VS1400GLPW 1998 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
                  GSX750FW 1998 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  RM125W 1998 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  DR650SEW 1998 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  DR350SEW 1998 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  VS1400GLPX 1999 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
                  RM250X 1999 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  GS500EX 1999 487 GS500E STREET
                  DR350X 1999 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX600FX 1999 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  LS650PX 1999 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
                  DR650SEX 1999 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FX 1999 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  RM125X 1999 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  DR350SEX 1999 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  GSX750FY 2000 749 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
                  VS1400GLPY 2000 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
                  LS650PY 2000 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
                  GSX600FY 2000 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
                  DR-Z400Y 2000 400 DR-Z400 DUAL PURPOSE
                  RM125Y 2000 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
                  DR-Z400SY 2000 400 DR-Z400S DUAL PURPOSE
                  GS500EY 2000 487 GS500E STREET
                  DR650SEY 2000 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
                  RM250Y 2000 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
                  DR-Z400EY 2000 400 DR-Z400E DUAL PURPOSE
                  Last edited by Guest; 07-30-2014, 04:29 PM.

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