Unknown washer in GS400 swingarm

[Guest]

Just want to clarify this is my first post. I used the search function but may have missed something.

So my dad recently gave me his 78' GS400 (my first bike) that hasn't been ridden since he estimates 1983. Regardless, I've been going through it and over the past few days removed the rear wheel assembly and took off the swingarm to lube the spacers, needle bearings, pivot bolt, etc

I took out the spacers and while i was lubing the needle bearings with my finger I felt a thin washer floating freely in the tube-- it looked to be about the size and thickness of a key ring maybe slightly bigger. Looking at the Clymers manual there were no pieces in the diagram that fit what it was.

Could it have been part of the cage the needle bearings are housed in? And should I be worried? I dismissed it earlier and reattached the swingarm to the frame but now it's troubling me.

-NewRider

[mrbill5491]

Just want to clarify this is my first post. I used the search function but may have missed something.

So my dad recently gave me his 78' GS400 (my first bike) that hasn't been ridden since he estimates 1983. Regardless, I've been going through it and over the past few days removed the rear wheel assembly and took off the swingarm to lube the spacers, needle bearings, pivot bolt, etc

I took out the spacers and while i was lubing the needle bearings with my finger I felt a thin washer floating freely in the tube-- it looked to be about the size and thickness of a key ring maybe slightly bigger. Looking at the Clymers manual there were no pieces in the diagram that fit what it was.

Could it have been part of the cage the needle bearings are housed in? And should I be worried? I dismissed it earlier and reattached the swingarm to the frame but now it's troubling me.

-NewRider

Okay, how about a pic of the offending washer?

[Gorminrider]

try here and see if you can spot it.

http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs400-1978-c_model13420/partslist/FIG-53.html#results

or back a few steps to here

http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs400_model13419/

[chuck hahn]

number 10 probably

[NewRider]

Whatever it is isn't listed on the diagram in the Clymers manual and I couldn't find it on cmsnl.com . I have some garage time tonight that I need to use remove the carbs so I can have them cleaned and synced but if I can get to it I'll try and snap a couple of pics tonight. I'm not even sure if my camera will be able to capture what needs to be seen but I'll try. The "ring" (more of a ring than a washer) was not removable from the swingarm tube I tried to pull it through the bearings after removing all the spacers but it was too big.

Thanks, for the replies everyone. I'll try and get pics up by the end of the week.

try here and see if you can spot it.

http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs400-1978-c_model13420/partslist/FIG-53.html#results

or back a few steps to here
http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs400_model13419/

[JEEPRUSTY]

I think that its probably the inner wall of the bearing race.

[NewRider]

I think that its probably the inner wall of the bearing race.

Jeep I think you're right. That is what I originally suspected but I'm new to wrenching and didn't have the technical vocabulary to say that. A few questions:
1. Is it a big deal if the wall is off the bearing race?
2. Can I ride with it like that?
3. Do I need to replace the bearing or can I re-seat it?

[hjfisk]

If it is indeed the inner wall you need to replace it. You needle bearing will start to come apart if you don't. Probably still available through Suzuki

[JEEPRUSTY]

Bearings are a tad expensive but I would replace it.
edit.

21 bucks or so at alph sports so not bad at all
replace both and forget about them for 36 more years

Part # = 09263-22017
Part Description = ROLLER BEARING (22X29X3
Model Count = 187
GS400B 1977 398 GS400 STREET
GS550B 1977 549 GS550 STREET
GS400XB 1977 398 GS400X STREET
GS750B 1977 748 GS750 STREET
GS400C 1978 398 GS400 STREET
GS400XC 1978 398 GS400X STREET
GS550EC 1978 549 GS550E STREET
GS750EC 1978 748 GS750E STREET
GS550C 1978 549 GS550 STREET
GS750C 1978 748 GS750 STREET
GS425N 1979 425 GS425 STREET
GS750N 1979 748 GS750 STREET
GS425LN 1979 425 GS425L STREET
GS750LN 1979 748 GS750L STREET
GS550LN 1979 549 GS550L STREET
GS550N 1979 549 GS550 STREET
GS450ET 1980 448 GS450E STREET
GS550ET 1980 549 GS550E STREET
GS250TT 1980 250 GS250T STREET
GS450LT 1980 448 GS450L STREET
GN400LT 1980 400 GN400L STREET
GS550LT 1980 549 GS550L STREET
GS750LT 1980 748 GS750L STREET
GS750ET 1980 748 GS750E STREET
GN400TX 1981 400 GN400T STREET
GS250TX 1981 250 GS250T STREET
GS450EX 1981 448 GS450E STREET
GS450TX 1981 448 GS450T STREET
GS750EX 1981 748 GS750E STREET
GS750LX 1981 748 GS750L STREET
GS550LX 1981 549 GS550L STREET
GS550TX 1981 549 GS550T STREET
GS450LX 1981 448 GS450L STREET
GS650EX 1981 673 GS650E STREET
GS650EZ 1982 673 GS650E STREET
GN400TZ 1982 400 GN400T STREET
GS300LZ 1982 300 GS300L STREET
GS450EZ2 1982 1/2 448 GS450E STREET
GS550LZ 1982 549 GS550L STREET
GS450LZ 1982 448 GS450L STREET
GS450EZ 1982 448 GS450E STREET
GS550MZ 1982 549 GS550M KATANA STREET
GSX750EZ 1982 747 GSX750E STREET
GS450TZ 1982 448 GS450T STREET
GS750TZ 1982 748 GS750T STREET
GSX750TD 1983 747 GSX750T STREET
GS300LD 1983 300 GS300L STREET
GS450LD 1983 448 GS450L STREET
GS450TXD 1983 448 GS450TX STREET
GSX550ED 1983 572 GSX550E STREET
GR650D 1983 650 GR650 TEMPTER STREET
GS300LF 1985 300 GS300L STREET
DR250SES 1985 250 DR250SE DUAL PURPOSE
GS450LF 1985 448 GS450L STREET
GS450LG 1986 448 GS450L STREET
LS650G 1986 652 LS650 SAVAGE CRUISER
LS650H 1987 652 LS650 SAVAGE CRUISER
LT300EH 1987 300 LT300E ATV
VS1400GLH 1987 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
GS450LH 1987 448 GS450L STREET
LT300EJ 1988 300 LT300E ATV
GSX600FJ 1988 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
LS650J 1988 652 LS650 SAVAGE CRUISER
GS450LJ 1988 448 GS450L STREET
VS1400GLJ 1988 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
GS500EK 1989 487 GS500E STREET
GSX600FK 1989 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
RM250K 1989 246 RM250 OFF ROAD
RMX250K 1989 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
GSX750FK 1989 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
LT300EK 1989 300 LT300E ATV
GSX600FL 1990 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
DR350SL 1990 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
RMX250L 1990 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
VS1400GLL 1990 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
DR350L 1990 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FL 1990 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
DR250L 1990 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
DR250SL 1990 250 DR250S DUAL PURPOSE
RM250L 1990 246 RM250 OFF ROAD
GS500EL 1990 487 GS500E STREET
RM250M 1991 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
GS500EM 1991 487 GS500E STREET
DR350M 1991 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FM 1991 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
RMX250M 1991 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
DR350SM 1991 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
DR250SM 1991 250 DR250S DUAL PURPOSE
VS1400GLM 1991 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
GSX600FM 1991 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
DR250M 1991 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
VS1400GLN 1992 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
RM250N 1992 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
GS500EN 1992 487 GS500E STREET
DR350N 1992 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
RMX250N 1992 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
DR250N 1992 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
RM125N 1992 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
DR350SN 1992 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FN 1992 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
DR250SN 1992 250 DR250S DUAL PURPOSE
GSX600FN 1992 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
DR350P 1993 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
DR250SEP 1993 250 DR250SE DUAL PURPOSE
VS1400GLP 1993 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
DR250P 1993 250 DR250 DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FP 1993 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
RMX250P 1993 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
GSX600FP 1993 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
GS500EP 1993 487 GS500E STREET
DR350SP 1993 350 DR350S DUAL PURPOSE
RM250P 1993 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
RM125P 1993 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
DR350R 1994 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
RM250R 1994 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
RM125R 1994 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
DR350SER 1994 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
DR250SER 1994 250 DR250SE DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FR 1994 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
RMX250R 1994 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
GS500ER 1994 487 GS500E STREET
GSX600FR 1994 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
VS1400GLR 1994 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
LS650PS 1995 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
RMX250S 1995 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
RM250S 1995 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
RM125S 1995 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
VS1400GLS 1995 1360 VS1400 GL INTRUDER CRUISER
DR350S 1995 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
DR350SES 1995 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FS 1995 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
GS500ES 1995 487 GS500E STREET
GSX600FS 1995 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
DR650SET 1996 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
RM250T 1996 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
RMX250T 1996 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
DR350SET 1996 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
GSX600FT 1996 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
DR350T 1996 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FT 1996 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
RM125T 1996 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
GS500EW 1996 487 GS500E STREET
GS500ET 1996 487 GS500E STREET
LS650PT 1996 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
VS1400GLPT 1996 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
RM125V 1997 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
DR650SEV 1997 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FV 1997 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
RM250V 1997 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
DR350V 1997 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
GS500EV 1997 487 GS500E STREET
DR350SEV 1997 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
GSX600FV 1997 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
RMX250V 1997 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
VS1400GLPV 1997 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
LS650PV 1997 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
LS650PW 1998 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
DR350W 1998 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
GSX600FW 1998 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
RMX250W 1998 249 RMX250 OFF ROAD
RM250W 1998 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
VS1400GLPW 1998 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
GSX750FW 1998 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
RM125W 1998 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
DR650SEW 1998 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
DR350SEW 1998 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
VS1400GLPX 1999 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
RM250X 1999 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
GS500EX 1999 487 GS500E STREET
DR350X 1999 350 DR350 DUAL PURPOSE
GSX600FX 1999 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
LS650PX 1999 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
DR650SEX 1999 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FX 1999 748 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
RM125X 1999 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
DR350SEX 1999 350 DR350SE DUAL PURPOSE
GSX750FY 2000 749 GSX750F KATANA 750 SPORT
VS1400GLPY 2000 1360 VS1400 GLP INTRUDER CRUISER
LS650PY 2000 652 LS650P SAVAGE CRUISER
GSX600FY 2000 599 GSX600F KATANA 600 SPORT
DR-Z400Y 2000 400 DR-Z400 DUAL PURPOSE
RM125Y 2000 124 RM125 OFF ROAD
DR-Z400SY 2000 400 DR-Z400S DUAL PURPOSE
GS500EY 2000 487 GS500E STREET
DR650SEY 2000 650 DR650SE DUAL PURPOSE
RM250Y 2000 249 RM250 OFF ROAD
DR-Z400EY 2000 400 DR-Z400E DUAL PURPOSE