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    #16
    Originally posted by shameless View Post
    Ok, I sold a couple pistols, I'll be doing front to back complete. Any suggestions on brands to use or not to use? Companies that I can get everything in one order, etc? Also, can a brake piston be smoothed? Or is this a must replace part as well?
    If it's just baked-on crud, then yes, it can be cleaned up and re-used. If the chrome is badly pitted, then it's junk. Only in the most extreme circumstances would you buff it out and re-use it (like, being a thousand miles from anywhere and have no choice).
    ---- Dave

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      #17
      And would it help to clean the parts if I dipped them in solvent? Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I'm new to this stuff lol

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        #18
        Yes,

        solvent will help loosen up the crud. Berryman's and/or other carb cleaners will work, but be aware that they can also strip the paint off the calipers.
        '83 GS650G
        '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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          #19
          Usually you don't need any brake kits, just take them apart, see what's inside, clean it all meticulously and put it back together. The expensive part is new lines.

          If you have any more pistols to sell, offer them to me.....
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            #20
            should I need to replace every component, I'll need... FRONT: caliper kit, pistons, master cyl. kit, pads, and brake lines. REAR: caliper kit, pistons, master cyl. kit, pads, and brake lines. am I forgetting anything on my check list?

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              #21
              Make sure you get replacement copper washers for the lines. You can re-use copper ones if you anneal them, but better to go new. Dead cheap, though.
              ---- Dave

              Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                #22
                You should get new copper washers with any set of premade replacement lines, but it doesnt hurt to check they are included in the hardware.

                Alos, checke your caliper pins (the pins the calipers slide on) for corrosion, pitting, etc...these can get bad enough to cause binding.
                '83 GS650G
                '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                  #23
                  Can I get the washers and caliper pins at just any auto parts store?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by shameless View Post
                    Can I get the washers and caliper pins at just any auto parts store?
                    Not in my experience...but the caliper pins are available through online Suzuki parts suppliers, dealers, Ebay, etc. The washers might be easier to find, but being metric might present some difficulties. If you are going to build your own lines then just order the crush washers at the same time as the rest of the plumbing.
                    '83 GS650G
                    '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                      #25
                      Don't order anything until you tear down the whole brake system and see what you need first. You will need seals but other parts (pistons, pins, whatever) are unknown until you see them with your own eyes.
                      Charles
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by eil View Post
                        Don't order anything until you tear down the whole brake system and see what you need first. You will need seals but other parts (pistons, pins, whatever) are unknown until you see them with your own eyes.
                        I'm getting a lot of mixed feelings here. lol I value all of your opinions, however I've been told by so any people, replace everything, then others say you don't have to replace the pistons, seals, etc, if they're ok. but definitely replace the lines. I'm trying to wrap my head around this, please be patient, but I'm not sure what to do lol

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                          #27
                          Just strip it and see.
                          Pistons badly pitted? Junk.
                          Old rubber lines? Junk.
                          The seals are of unknown age and likely junk (or do you feel lucky?).
                          The pins are probably ok, but they get junky with lots of miles and the holes they slide into get worn and there's no way back for them, so the mounting bracket can be junk, too.
                          On the bright side, if you have a relatively low-mileage bike and it's not been abandoned outside by the sea, the chances are the calipers only need a strip, clean, new seals and new lines and you'll be good to go for another two or three decades.
                          The master cylinder likely only needs new seals, too. Again, you won't know until you strip it.

                          What works in your favour is the majority of these bikes were weekend and summer toys, and usually serviced regularly for the first decade or two of their existence, so the odd application of grease here and there did wonders for the longevity of various components.
                          Last edited by Grimly; 06-24-2015, 06:55 PM.
                          ---- Dave

                          Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by shameless View Post
                            I'm getting a lot of mixed feelings here. lol I value all of your opinions, however I've been told by so any people, replace everything, then others say you don't have to replace the pistons, seals, etc, if they're ok. but definitely replace the lines. I'm trying to wrap my head around this, please be patient, but I'm not sure what to do lol
                            Okay, so your current brake system is comprised of two kinds of parts:

                            1. Those that need to be replaced for your own well-being and peace of mind.
                            2. Those that might need to be replaced because they may or may not be serviceable any more.

                            The parts in the first category are the rubber bits like seals and brake lines. They're old and since you don't know their history, that automatically means you need new ones.

                            As for the the parts in the second category, you won't know whether or not they need to be replaced until you tear open all calipers and master cylinders to clean and inspect them. That's why I advised doing that step first. You certainly can order the parts you know you need first, wait for them to arrive, and then tackle the rebuild only to find that you have to order yet more parts (which will take another two weeks or so to arrive). Or you can clean and inspect your brake systems first to find out which parts from category 2 that you need, which will save you time and shipping costs.

                            Make sense?
                            Charles
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                            1979 Suzuki GS850G

                            Read BassCliff's GSR Greeting and Mega-Welcome!

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                              #29
                              I posted, and deleted cause I was wrong, all 4 pistons have small pits in them, anyone know what size they are for front and rear brake pistons?

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                                #30
                                I found a listing for a piston cup for a GS1000S and a GS1000 gt, is there really a difference in the brakes, or are they all the same for GS?

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