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    #16
    Not debunked, they work just fine. No magic, it's the same science that's been balancing truck tires and washing machines for decades.
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      #17
      Hey, Mr. Scientist, if automatic dynamic balancing (or whatever term you choose to call it) doesn't work then why do they go to the extra expense to...
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        #18
        Can't be bothered to read some lame thread, but when a hugely out of balance pair of dirt bike wheels with rim locks and knobbies can be made to run as smoothly as a new street bike with the addition of a few beads it's good enough for me.
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          #19
          Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
          Can't be bothered to read some lame thread, but when a hugely out of balance pair of dirt bike wheels with rim locks and knobbies can be made to run as smoothly as a new street bike with the addition of a few beads it's good enough for me.
          I feel like sticking a finger down my throat when I see "I will ignore all evidence until you prove it to me" supposed analyst types.

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            #20
            I proved it to myself by putting them in my dirt bike. It's a real smoothy now.
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              #21
              Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
              I proved it to myself by putting them in my dirt bike. It's a real smoothy now.
              So are the 255/60-17 tires on the front of my van .

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                #22
                So... Make sure only to use magic water. Or liquid nitrogen. Got it!

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                  #23
                  I use them on my bike. smooths up the ride.

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                    #24
                    Two things in this world i know about, there isnt any magic unless its playing cards and no God/s . Always hope. Balance that tyre the proven way and you wont have any issue if the rest of the bike is ok. Ive fitted 1000's of tyres and only reason they came back is they weaved and that was more with bike set-up or worn/loose steering head bearings. And no thats not a misprint. its 1,000s of tyres. 1978-1995 and the record was 35 tires on a sat morn during a 4hr shift. A few that brought there wheels in. Me tyre changing, boss doing the bike fitting. Record for a fitting took one person 11mins 28secs to do a Stock Katana front and back tyres one day.

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                      #25
                      Not sure how a discussion of magic got into this thread. There's nothing magical about it.
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                        #26
                        I balance the rim, no tire. Mount the tire, balance normally is unchanged. If it is changed, I rebalance. Done. No beads needed or wanted.
                        NO PIC THANKS TO FOTO BUCKET FOR BEING RIDICULOUS

                        Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
                        Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by 1980GS1000E View Post
                          I balance the rim, no tire. Mount the tire, balance normally is unchanged. If it is changed, I rebalance. Done. No beads needed or wanted.
                          Exactly how it should be done, with one exception. Try putting the yellow dot near the heaviest part of the rim. (Not really at the valve stem) In the long run you more than likely use less weight.

                          And if the tire has only a yellow dot?
                          Regardless of the type of wheel, if there is no red dot,
                          mount the tire with the yellow dot next to the valve stem.

                          Why do it that way?
                          We’ll start with the yellow dot, because it’s easier to explain.
                          The yellow dot indicates the overall light static balance
                          point of the tire. In other words, it’s as though the tire is a
                          bit lighter in the area where the yellow dot is located.
                          How does that relate to the wheel?

                          On an aluminum wheel, the valve stem marks the heavy
                          point of the wheel. So, you’re matching the light point of
                          the tire with the heavy point of the wheel, because that’s
                          likely to give the best initial balance.

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                            #28
                            I omitted that part, but I do align the mark with the stem. I try to get the rim as close as possible.
                            Last edited by 1980GS1000E; 08-28-2015, 09:26 PM.
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                            Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
                            Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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                              #29
                              They work...............
                              1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                              1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                                Not sure how a discussion of magic got into this thread. There's nothing magical about it.
                                It's in the title!

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