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    1983 GS1100ED - Michelin Pilot Activ - Speed wobble. :(

    As the title says, I have a 1983 GS1100ED that I just re-shod with a new set of Michelin Pilot Activ tires. But now I have a horrible speed wobble as soon as hit 80 mph or so.

    So far, I have removed the front tire and had the balance checked by another shop. We also checked for runout, and out of round. All looked OK. While I had it up on the jack, I determined that there was no slop in the steering head bearings, and nothing appeared to be loose.

    I am running about 26 pounds in the front tire.

    Is this just a bad tire choice? Can it be a bad tire?

    It sucks having a dast bike that can not go over eighty mph.

    Thanks for reading.

    #2
    Hi and welcome to the site.

    Was there any wobble before the new tires? Sometimes the head bearings don't have any "slop" but they may still need to be snugged down a little.
    1982 GS1100E "Jolene"

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      #3
      26lbs is low imo...I run around 32 in mine....as for a"sloppy" feeling...if your head bearing is going you feel a "notch" in the steering when on the centre stand a front wheel off the ground.
      Cheers and welcome to the site
      No signature :(

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        #4
        What size are the tires?

        Those tires should be run at 32/36 (front/rear) according to the Michelin website. 100/90-19 front and 130/90-17 rear are the correct sizes.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

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          #5
          Thanks for the welcome, guys! I thought I was a member, but then I had to re-register, LOL.

          I will try 32 PSI.

          My bike has only 14k on the clock, so I am not convinced my steering bearings are on their way out.

          I really appreciate the input.

          And before these new tires, the wobble came on at 120 mph, so 80 mph is 40 less, or in other words, a lot.

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            #6
            I'm on team low tire pressure...but there might be something else contributing to the wobble.
            '83 GS650G
            '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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              #7
              The question about tire sizes was not answered.

              Regarding "team low tire pressure", that may have been a good team back in the 1980's, but today it's best to listen to the tire manufacturers on what pressure their tires are designed to run with. In the case of those Michelin's the pressure is 32/36psi.

              BTW, if the steering head and swingarm bearings haven't been serviced lately (or ever), now is a good time. Fresh grease is a wonderful thing.
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

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              KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                #8
                If not steering bearing maybe the swingarm bearings?
                1983 GS 550 LD
                2009 BMW K1300s

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CCM911 View Post
                  Thanks for the welcome, guys! I thought I was a member, but then I had to re-register, LOL.

                  I will try 32 PSI.

                  My bike has only 14k on the clock, so I am not convinced my steering bearings are on their way out.

                  I really appreciate the input.

                  And before these new tires, the wobble came on at 120 mph, so 80 mph is 40 less, or in other words, a lot.
                  Miles don't matter all the time...after all it is a 30+ year old bike. Things dry up.
                  No signature :(

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                    The question about tire sizes was not answered.

                    Regarding "team low tire pressure", that may have been a good team back in the 1980's, but today it's best to listen to the tire manufacturers on what pressure their tires are designed to run with. In the case of those Michelin's the pressure is 32/36psi.

                    BTW, if the steering head and swingarm bearings haven't been serviced lately (or ever), now is a good time. Fresh grease is a wonderful thing.
                    I think you misunderstood my position. I am on the team that believes the low tire pressure is potentially the cause of the wobble, but not the only cause as the PO has stated that he had a high speed wobble at high speed previously.
                    '83 GS650G
                    '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                      #11

                      Do not neglect the rear tire as well...
                      That can also affect the bike as it 'wags' the entire frame -
                      Low pressures in either tire can manifest as a wobble

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                        #12
                        Tires are stock sizes. I will try 32/36 and report back.

                        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                        The question about tire sizes was not answered.

                        Regarding "team low tire pressure", that may have been a good team back in the 1980's, but today it's best to listen to the tire manufacturers on what pressure their tires are designed to run with. In the case of those Michelin's the pressure is 32/36psi.

                        BTW, if the steering head and swingarm bearings haven't been serviced lately (or ever), now is a good time. Fresh grease is a wonderful thing.

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                          #13
                          Ed, where did you find the recommended pressure info?
                          I don't see it on Michelin's site. I'm trying to find the suggested pressure for the Shinko 230s i just bought. The FSM says 25/28 which seems a bit low.
                          Jordan

                          1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
                          2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                          1973 BMW R75/5

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                            #14
                            rear wheel alignment?
                            sight down a long straightedge place ideally onto the outside edge of the rear wheel, one side, then the other.
                            Inexpensive, quick, easy test.

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                              #15
                              The whole thing sounds pretty familiar. I have speed wobbles going from Dunlops to Avons. Front @36,rear@38 religiously. And yes, I have changed, tightened, or adjusted everything you're going to suggest. No difference. Still wobbles. Cant go over 100mph.
                              82 1100 EZ (red)

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