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    #16
    Rapid Ray in the real world what real benefit does one derive from nitrogen?
    It is a dealership scam. Tires have had atmospheric gas since the dawn of the pneumatic tire with no real ill effects.
    1983 GS 550 LD
    2009 BMW K1300s

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      #17
      Just like many have said nitrogen is used on aircraft for two reasons, no moisture and less pressure change due to thermal changes. Aircraft fly in all range of temperatures and as such the tires might see -30° to well over 100° in less than an hour. Those tires have to maintain a fairly constant pressure throughout the entire range. Nitrogen in race cars/bikes is for the same reasons more constant pressure. I say more because I know aircraft tires will still change presure due to temp as much as 10 psi for the little ones I work on. Race vehicles are pushing the tires to their limits and as such want to stay as constant as possible. As for a car or motorcycle for normal driving Nitrogen is a waste. Just my opinion.

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        #18
        I should imagine it is also a waste for most racing oriented driving.
        Even an imaginary edge is an edge?
        1983 GS 550 LD
        2009 BMW K1300s

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          #19
          Originally posted by Cipher View Post
          I should imagine it is also a waste for most racing oriented driving.
          Even an imaginary edge is an edge?
          For racing applications, where every tiny bit matters, it may be justified.

          For street riding/driving, it doesn't make a difference.

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            #20
            H? or He?

            Hydrogen? or Helium? I've got a call in to Tom Brady ("I misinterpreted the rules").
            1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

            2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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              #21
              No nitrogen, but I have used Metric air for some time now...
              Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple:twistedevil:, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
              Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
              Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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                #22
                Originally posted by Griffin View Post
                I don't buy it with the sensors.

                They've been installed in cars for about a decade now, and I would guess most of them are operating in at least partially contaminated nitrogen, if not 100% gas station/home garage produced saturated compressed air. I know my tires pretty much run that way.

                I've never personally had a failure, and I've not heard of any mass failures of them either.
                Haven't had to replace one because the battery died?. Many do not have replaceable batts. Since they are potted in plastic I can't see oxygen or moisture making a difference.
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                1983 GS1100e
                82\83 1100e Frankenbike
                1980 GS1260
                Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by limeex2 View Post
                  No nitrogen, but I have used Metric air for some time now...
                  Best answer yet

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                    #24
                    Bull crap is 99% nitrogen, so I heard.
                    ---- Dave

                    Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by wymple View Post
                      Best answer yet
                      Broken mouse pad?
                      1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                      2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                        #26
                        I used to work for an industrial gas company. Nitrogen is an extremely dry gas,so it keeps moisture in the tire to a minimum keeping steel belts from rusting on the inside .Nitrogen molecules are bigger than oxygen molecules so you lose less tire pressure over time also.The machines they use are full of liquid Nitrogen, its vaporized into a gas,its 99% pure. I would use it if i could.
                        Last edited by Guest; 09-24-2016, 02:55 PM.

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                          #27
                          On aircraft wheel assemblies, think thousands to tens of thousands of dollars, it prevents or helps to prevent/reduce corrosion also. As others have said it also stabilizes pressures with the fluctuating temps that aircraft tires rapidly go through.

                          As for a bike or car....it could help reduce wheel corrosion for the everyday machine. No performance gains though.
                          1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                          1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                          I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                            #28
                            If bull crap were 99% Nitrogen, it wouldn't be so difficult to get it into tires. But it would help with the Global Warming thing.

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                              #29
                              I run my tires with only 78% nitrogen.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by GSCafe View Post
                                I run my tires with only 78% nitrogen.
                                I always go for that extra 0.4%.
                                ---- Dave

                                Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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