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    Speedometer is 10 mph off

    First of all, thanks to the great, helpful people on this forum! My 1978 GS 1000's speedometer reads 10 mph faster than the bike is going. I know this from the GPS on my phone. I just learned the tire size should be a 3.50 -19 where I have a 3.25-19. My guess is that's the difference (albeit a big one). I will now try to find out how to donate to this forum, I love it!
    1978 GS 1000

    #2
    1st up a 3.25 x 19 IS right size (Metric size is 100/ 90 x 19) Thats still a 90 profile so it isnt a issue with your tyre. And who told you a 350 tyre is right size. that would make it steer like a truck.

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      #3
      Many people here (maybe all?) have said their speedos read 5-10 mph fast.
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        #4
        Not sure how accurate the GPS on your phone is, but speedos in pretty much all vehicles read fast by design. 10 MPH seems excessive though.
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          #5
          Whether you look for a 3.25 or a 3.50 doesn't matter, they are almost impossible to find in today's market. Look for a 100/90-19.

          Most of the speedos hover in the range of about 5 mph off at 60 (about 11%), using a 100 tire removes most of that. If your speedo is off more than that, you will likely have to live with that.

          We suspect that dpeedos were intentionally inaccurate from the factory. Joe would say "my bike (with an accurate speedo) goes 105 mph". Bob says "my bike (with an inaccurate speedo) goes 110 mph". Guess who has the "faster" bike? Guess who has bragging rights, even though the bike might be slower, due to the wrong numbers showing on the gauge?

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            #6
            You might find this link helpful, it automatically calculates all the parameters between differing tire sizes by entering the sizes. https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc
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            1982 GS450txz (former bike)
            LONG list of previous bikes not listed here.

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              #7
              This article here offers a pretty good explanation ----->https://www.thrillist.com/cars/your-...-japanese-cars

              It's talking about cars, but the same principles apply. Basically tire size, tread wear, over/underinflation, a number of other factors can all affect speedo accuracy. Across the speed range, the difference between actual and measured speed will be inconsistent. It may be 2 MPH off at 30 MPH, and 10 MPH off at 100 MPH.

              Having a speedo that reads less than your actual speed could cause legal issues for the manufacturers, so they always err on the side of caution and design them to read faster than actual speed.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Steve View Post
                We suspect that dpeedos were intentionally inaccurate from the factory. Joe would say "my bike (with an accurate speedo) goes 105 mph". Bob says "my bike (with an inaccurate speedo) goes 110 mph". Guess who has the "faster" bike? Guess who has bragging rights, even though the bike might be slower, due to the wrong numbers showing on the gauge?
                Still a common complaint, even on modern bikes. My wife’s 2015 Honda CBR300RA speedometer reads about 10% high.

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                  #9
                  Thanks to all that replied. I was hoping there may be a solution with the speedo gear on the hub. Tomorrow I will look into my GPS being off (I never considered it). I hope it is because it shows my F 150 off 4 mph also. I own seven bikes (all Jap) and most of the speedos are off about 4 mph, I thought 10 mph was extreme.
                  1978 GS 1000

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                    #10
                    Many jurisdictions even require speedos to provide a higher reading.
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                      #11
                      78 GS1k here as well. 10mph fast.

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                        #12
                        79 GS 1000 here reads 8 mph fast.
                        Larry

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                          #13
                          One more thing here, I've been using GPS since the days when it was still being called an experiment. Civilian GPS is relative, meaning that at any two given points your position is not dead nuts accurate but the distance between them is. The BEST way to test a speedo is to measure a distance and use a timer while traveling at a set speed to compute the actual speed.
                          1980 Yamaha XS1100G (Current bike)
                          1982 GS450txz (former bike)
                          LONG list of previous bikes not listed here.

                          I identify as a man but according to the label on a box of Stauffers Baked Lasagne I'm actually a family of four

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by LAB3 View Post
                            One more thing here, I've been using GPS since the days when it was still being called an experiment. Civilian GPS is relative, meaning that at any two given points your position is not dead nuts accurate but the distance between them is. The BEST way to test a speedo is to measure a distance and use a timer while traveling at a set speed to compute the actual speed.
                            I have not been using one quite that long, but also have extensive experience. I agree that speed between any two points is pretty much "hit or miss", but the overall trend is rather accurate.

                            I upload my tracks every week to keep track of payable miles for work. It is sometimes interesting to look at the numbers between two points. One time, it showed my doing about 5 mph from where I had parked at the garage down to the street. It then showed me turning left and within 5 seconds, I was doing 138 mph. Of course, it then showed me doing 20, 25, 37 then 45 mph between the next few points. I knew my minivan was pretty quick, but did not realize just how quick it was. A previous van also took me to over 2000 mph while going around Indianapolis several years ago. Not only did it show me going that fast, but I jumped from my location on the freeway (elevation about 900) to a point several miles away and over 4000 feet up and back in just a matter of a few seconds.

                            GPS calculates position based on differences in a standardized time signal. It does not take much of an error in rounding to put you quite a distance away from actual position, but overall, when it says on the display that you are going 60 mph, you are easily within 1 mph of 60. The spikes that happen due to miscalculations just don't have time to show on the display.

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                            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                            Family Portrait
                            Siblings and Spouses
                            Mom's first ride
                            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Kingjoel View Post
                              Thanks to all that replied. I was hoping there may be a solution with the speedo gear on the hub. Tomorrow I will look into my GPS being off (I never considered it). I hope it is because it shows my F 150 off 4 mph also. I own seven bikes (all Jap) and most of the speedos are off about 4 mph, I thought 10 mph was extreme.
                              It is also possible that the return spring inside the speedo is losing strength or binding (?). Over time, this will cause your speedo to increasingly over-read speeds.

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