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    Tube...tubeless.... again. simple, I hope

    Last fall I took the rear wheel, from my "83" 1100E, & a new tire to a local, private, shop to have the tire mounted & balanced. We discussed the tube vs tubeless wheel thing. He said he didn't recommend putting the new tire on this wheel, as it didn't have tubeless stamped on it, without a tube. After quite a bit of discussion I "thought" we decided he was going to mount it tubeless. I noticed, the other day, the bike is sitting the garage with a flat rear tire. A closer look & I see it has a tube in it. I'm not happy. This time, when the tire goes back on, there "WILL NOT" be a tube in it. Back in the "80"'s, when this all started, our local shop had the tubeless valve stems, on the shelf, that bolted right in to the existing hole, no problem. Now I'm seeing to countersink the hole, drill out the hole, bevel the hole. I'm just looking for a stem, like my old dealer had. They are the 0.453" size, but is there a specific brand, or model # that is known to bolts right in & not need drilling or modifying. I found in an old thread, Bike Master # 15-1947, but that one is no longer available. Probably most will work, but one that someone has used & knows works well may save me a little grief. Thanks.
    1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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    An 83 rim? should have had tubeless stamped on it.
    sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
    1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
    2015 CAN AM RTS


    Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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      #3
      I've been running tubeless for 7 years.
      NO PIC THANKS TO FOTO BUCKET FOR BEING RIDICULOUS

      Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
      Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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        #4
        Yeah, I'd have thought they would have been tubeless too. But after a bunch of searching & reading, None of the 4 valve 1100's ever came with tubeless wheels, unless maybe the GS1100 "L" model, I didn't see them mentioned, & they did have a different rear than the "E". the first big 4 valve bike with tubeless started with the "84" GS1150's. It's still hard for me to believe, but it seems that's the way it is.
        1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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          #5
          Originally posted by 1980GS1000E View Post
          I've been running tubeless for 7 years.
          On 1980 E rims?

          Soon after I acquired my 11e, I took her for new tires (sprockets, chain, etc.). Because I was a Cycle World addict, I asked for Bridgestone Battlaxe tires. Was told, "Well, they're not designed for tubes, and your rims are."

          I decided that when I'm doing "the buck," I've already got too many possible nightmarish outcomes running through my helmet.
          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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            #6
            I've never heard of a tire that you couldn't use a tube in. Tubeless designed tires do have "Tubeless" stamped on them, but you can use them on tubeless rims, you just need to put a tube in them. I've never heard of one that says "Tubeless ONLY", or "DO NOT USE TUBES" in this tire.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              #7
              Originally posted by rphillips View Post
              I've never heard of a tire that you couldn't use a tube in. Tubeless designed tires do have "Tubeless" stamped on them, but you can use them on tubeless rims, you just need to put a tube in them. I've never heard of one that says "Tubeless ONLY", or "DO NOT USE TUBES" in this tire.
              Exactly. When a tire on my 1982 Camaro became so beat up it just wouldn't hold air, I panicked. "What can I do?" I asked the tire shop. "We'll put a tube in it," he calmly answered.
              1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

              2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                #8
                Originally posted by rphillips View Post
                Yeah, I'd have thought they would have been tubeless too. But after a bunch of searching & reading, None of the 4 valve 1100's ever came with tubeless wheels, unless maybe the GS1100 "L" model, I didn't see them mentioned, & they did have a different rear than the "E". the first big 4 valve bike with tubeless started with the "84" GS1150's. It's still hard for me to believe, but it seems that's the way it is.
                Not sure what you are reading, but the big change to tubeless rims hit mid production in 82, they tighten up their process making the rims less porous and adding the bead to the rim for tubeless tire application. There were a few pre 82 rims that were tubeless as well. I believe those were the 850s and GS1000 rear rims only. Anyways, I had ran tubeless on my 80 750 for a few years with out a problem then went back to tubes since that is what it come with stock.
                sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
                1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
                2015 CAN AM RTS


                Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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