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    82 GS650GL Front Brake Caliper

    OK, Ive successfully rebuild the rear master & caliper now I'm onto the front which has been a little more frustrating the front master is seized pressurized with air after soaking and still won't budge so I've got a new master on the way.

    Now to the real issue at hand, finding a Front caliper rebuild kit. Ive ordered 2 from eBay claiming to be the correct kit, but both times they were too small. Does anyone have a source I could get a kit from? If not it looks like I can buy the individual parts from bike bandit as a last resort. Im so close to getting this on the road I can feel the bugs hitting my face! however not the type to run on one brake so this is one of the last problems needing solving! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    1983 GS650GL Not running when I bought it. runs great now
    Engine- Carb Cleaned, Valve Adj, Ignition Mod, balanced carbs, Polished/Painted engine, Exhaust wrapped
    Frame & Wheels painted, rebuild brakes/masters, Fixed Tach/Spedo, Sonic Springs in the Front, New handle bars w/bar end mirror/turn signals
    Still To-Do?
    Fuel sending unit, Fuel tank paint job?, LED headlight?, Seat falling apart, Solutions?, Changing look of the rear of bike, Seat, Brake/turn-signals

    #2
    A quick look shows that caliper being a pretty rare one, rare meaning it came on only one other bike, the 1980 550L. It could be the path of least resistance is to go with individual pieces direct from Suzuki to find what you need. Being a cheap b#$&@rd I'd get the part numbers and search eBay to get a better price. The actual parts themselves usually won't be much different, it's the shipping that usually gets ya'.
    1980 Yamaha XS1100G (Current bike)
    1982 GS450txz (former bike)
    LONG list of previous bikes not listed here.

    I identify as a man but according to the label on a box of Stauffers Baked Lasagne I'm actually a family of four

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      #3
      partsoutlaw.com always has $4.99 shipping with a code on the top of their page. My most recent order took 12 days to deliver. But my base gasket and breather gasket (literally the first and last gaskets that I need to finish by engine rebuild) are backordered. But that's probably the same story all over.

      It does look like the piston and some other parts are NLA.
      Rich
      1982 GS 750TZ
      2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

      BikeCliff's / Charging System Sorted / Posting Pics
      Destroy-Rebuild 750T/ Destroy-Rebuild part deux

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        #4
        Originally posted by LAB3 View Post
        A quick look shows that caliper being a pretty rare one, rare meaning it came on only one other bike, the 1980 550L. It could be the path of least resistance is to go with individual pieces direct from Suzuki to find what you need. Being a cheap b#$&@rd I'd get the part numbers and search eBay to get a better price. The actual parts themselves usually won't be much different, it's the shipping that usually gets ya'.
        Do you have a place to cross reference the different model calipers? I thought all the L model calipers were the same but something turned up in the Twinpot upgrade recently (where a forum member here says he has used L model calipers on a G fork which I didn't think was possible...). An easy source to cross reference would be really helpful....
        1980 GS1000G - Sold
        1978 GS1000E - Finished!
        1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
        1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
        2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
        1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
        2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

        www.parasiticsanalytics.com

        TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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          #5
          Originally posted by DrDankNuggs View Post
          OK, Ive successfully rebuild the rear master & caliper now I'm onto the front which has been a little more frustrating the front master is seized pressurized with air after soaking and still won't budge so I've got a new master on the way.

          Now to the real issue at hand, finding a Front caliper rebuild kit. Ive ordered 2 from eBay claiming to be the correct kit, but both times they were too small. Does anyone have a source I could get a kit from? If not it looks like I can buy the individual parts from bike bandit as a last resort. Im so close to getting this on the road I can feel the bugs hitting my face! however not the type to run on one brake so this is one of the last problems needing solving! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
          Why aftermarket ebay parts when OEM is available and often cheaper?
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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            #6
            Originally posted by salty_monk View Post
            Do you have a place to cross reference the different model calipers? I thought all the L model calipers were the same but something turned up in the Twinpot upgrade recently (where a forum member here says he has used L model calipers on a G fork which I didn't think was possible...). An easy source to cross reference would be really helpful....
            I've got L calipers on my G.
            Only difference was the bracket, which is awaiting my eventual usage of the L-style longer forks. For that, I'll have to find another matching bracket.

            In other words, the caliper itself was common to a wide range of early 80s GSs, but the fixing bracket differed.
            ---- Dave

            Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nessism View Post
              Why aftermarket ebay parts when OEM is available and often cheaper?
              Well, I decided to just order the 2 parts for the caliper from Bike Bandit, the piston was in good shape so I should be ok there.
              As far as the aftermarket I was speaking about the front master which is not available as new oem component. The piston is seized inside the old master so I'm wondering peoples experience with some aftermarket/non oem options. I can take my chances on an original used older unit sold on eBay then rebuild, but are there any new alternatives that anyone has experience with?
              Last edited by DrDankNuggs; 05-14-2020, 08:06 PM. Reason: Forgot to quote user
              1983 GS650GL Not running when I bought it. runs great now
              Engine- Carb Cleaned, Valve Adj, Ignition Mod, balanced carbs, Polished/Painted engine, Exhaust wrapped
              Frame & Wheels painted, rebuild brakes/masters, Fixed Tach/Spedo, Sonic Springs in the Front, New handle bars w/bar end mirror/turn signals
              Still To-Do?
              Fuel sending unit, Fuel tank paint job?, LED headlight?, Seat falling apart, Solutions?, Changing look of the rear of bike, Seat, Brake/turn-signals

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                #8
                I'm using Honda NTV650 brake master cylinders on all my bikes now - made by Nissin, so good quality OEM stuff.
                That's a 5/8" m.c. suitable for twin calipers.
                If you have a single caliper you'll need a different size.

                The aftermarket cheapy stuff is not something I want to trust my life to.
                ---- Dave

                Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by salty_monk View Post
                  Do you have a place to cross reference the different model calipers? I thought all the L model calipers were the same but something turned up in the Twinpot upgrade recently (where a forum member here says he has used L model calipers on a G fork which I didn't think was possible...). An easy source to cross reference would be really helpful....
                  Here's what I do. Find a parts seller with the Suzuki parts fische on line, I use the Babbitts.com website.

                  Find your part number from the fische and copy it. Now go to the general Suzuki parts page on that site, the page has a box where you can search by parts number at the bottom. Paste the number in that box and hit search.

                  The search result will show the name of the part, to the right in red letters it says "where used" Click on that link and it'll show all the applications for that part number.

                  While it's still on the clipboard, I'll also do a general Google search to find the best price and also an eBay search of that part number, this is usually the best place to find the lowest price.
                  1980 Yamaha XS1100G (Current bike)
                  1982 GS450txz (former bike)
                  LONG list of previous bikes not listed here.

                  I identify as a man but according to the label on a box of Stauffers Baked Lasagne I'm actually a family of four

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                    #10
                    Many times it's not worth the hassle of trying to rebuild a master because the bore corrodes. It's easier to just find a replacement. Twin disc GS's use 5/8" bore master cylinders so just look for something decent on ebay and don't look back.
                    Ed

                    To measure is to know.

                    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                      #11
                      Thanks Dave, that's what I thought.

                      Thanks for the cross ref info also.
                      1980 GS1000G - Sold
                      1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                      1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                      1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                      2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                      1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                      2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                      www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                      TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                        #12
                        I’d take a chance on this item.....you might get lucky for $20
                        1981 gs650L

                        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tom203 View Post
                          I’d take a chance on this item.....you might get lucky for $20
                          https://www.ebay.com/itm/193378938809
                          Cheap, but you still need to take it apart and clean it and replace seals.
                          Ed

                          To measure is to know.

                          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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