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Where did we/they come from

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This question has remained an unanswered question for many years. Now the most popular theory has to be rethought.



bigthink.com

The leading theory of how life began just hit a snag

It has some researchers taking a second look at other hypotheses that have been proposed — and mostly discarded — in the past.
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Any plausible theory is as valid as any other plausible theory, it's a matter of what you choose to believe. It's my opinion that these types of arguments only serve to debunk creationism, nothing more.

In other words, who cares?
 
LAB3 said:
Any plausible theory is as valid as any other plausible theory, it's a matter of what you choose to believe. It's my opinion that these types of arguments only serve to debunk creationism, nothing more.

In other words, who cares?
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Let's see:
There are MANY thousands of people called scientists who are deeply interested.
Scientific studies have continued for well beyond a century on many aspects of the subject.
Many, Many, Many dollars have been spent, and more will follow.

Slightly off-subject, here is a "current" scientific study on Noah's Ark.
This news report, from MSN, dates all the way back in history to a distant point of about three weeks from today.




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I remember a few yrs. back somebody had thought they had found Noah's Ark. Never heard what happened with that one.
 
Here's my point: There is absolutely no way to verify any one possibility as being true so why waste the effort on trying to do so?

Instead of throwing countless dollars at answering an unanswerable question why not put those resources into something tangible?

How about creating life out of nothing? It might not solve the question but could well gain some fresh ideas that could be used in other areas.
 
Summarized, it is about learning. It is an ongoing quest for knowledge.

Science may not be what so many think it is. This has been shown countless times throughout history, but never so much or as often as has occurred in the last 100 years.

On this subject, as on so many others, what you know to be "scientifically-proven" is current knowledge.. What you may not see is that it is finite.

Consider:
If you get a "base hit" in a baseball game , you can go to first base and be safe there

You KNOW your success got you safely there .......but....you can not progress beyond that newly-made "current" position until you step off the base.
 
In general, scientists are some of the most open-minded people on the planet. Thank goodness that questions continue to arise about life on this planet and thank science for removing the main thrust of that process from the religious control freaks who held onto it for so many millennia.
 
argonsagas said:
Let's see:
There are MANY thousands of people called scientists who are deeply interested.
Scientific studies have continued for well beyond a century on many aspects of the subject.
Many, Many, Many dollars have been spent, and more will follow.

Slightly off-subject, here is a "current" scientific study on Noah's Ark.
This news report, from MSN, dates all the way back in history to a distant point of about three weeks from today.




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Of particular note is this quote from "researcher Andrew (of-oh boy-Noah's Ark Scans): "What's left is the chemical imprint, pieces of wood and in the ground, the shape of a hall."

Because it is a HILL. Not a ship. The unceasing desire of biblicists in wanting their sky-wizard's works to be proven real has very little to do with actual science (and archaeology is scientific when it is done right). This was all debunked a long time ago. Nothing new has changed the geological findings of the 90's to any measurable extent:

Evidence from microscopic studies and photo analyses demonstrates that the supposed Ark near Dogubayazit is a completely natural rock formation. It cannot have been Noah's Ark nor even a man-made model. It is understandable why early investigators falsely identified it. The unusual boat-shaped structure would so catch their attention that an eagerness to be persons who either discovered Noah's Ark or confirmed its existence would tend to override caution. An illustration of the degree to which caution was disregarded by supporters of the Noah's Ark hypothesis is shown by the mistaken identification of a metamorphosed peridotite with crinkle folds as either gopherwood bark or casts of fossilized reeds that supposedly once covered the Ark (Wyatt, 1994). Furthermore, if the Creationism Flood hypothesis were valid (Baumgardner, 1985, 1990), the "dead animals" represented by fossils in this limestone must have died in the supposed Flood, and these fossilized remains are found in channels that cut the supposed Ark. Therefore, the supposed Ark is older than the deposits of the supposed Noachian Flood, and this relationship in itself conclusively refutes the hypothesis that the structure is the preserved remnants of the Ark.

When the site is again accessible to foreign investigators, the area near Kazan (Arzap) needs to be examined to see if outcrops of volcanic rocks occur there that have a mineralogy similar to that of the anchor stones. If so, a local source for the anchor stones is strongly supported. Lacking this information for this article, however, in no way negates the conclusion that the boat-shaped rock formation is totally natural.​

David Fasold suggested that, although the structure is not Noah's Ark, it may very well be the site which the ancients regarded as the ship of the Deluge and may have played a role in the Flood story. As a geologist, I find this to be a interesting speculation.

 
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