• Required reading for all forum users!!!

    Welcome!
    Register to access the full functionality of the GSResources forum. Until you register and activate your account you will not have full forum access, nor will you be able to post or reply to messages.

    A note to new registrants...
    All new forum registrations must be activated via email before you have full access to the forum.

    A Special Note about Email accounts!
    DO NOT SIGN UP USING hotmail, outlook, gmx, sbcglobal, att, bellsouth or email.com. They delete our forum signup emails.

    A note to old forum members...
    I receive numerous requests from people who can no longer log in because their accounts were deleted. As mentioned in the forum FAQ, user accounts are deleted if you haven't logged in for the past 6 months. If you can't log in, then create a new forum account. If you don't get an error message, then check your email account for an activation message. If you get a message stating that the email address is already in use, then your account still exists so follow the instructions in the forum FAQ for resetting your password.

    Have you forgotten your password or have a new email address? Then read the forum FAQ for details on how to reset it.

    Any email requests for "can't log in anymore" problems or "lost my password" problems will be deleted. Read the forum FAQ and follow the instructions there - that's what we have one for...

  • Returning Visitors

    If you are a returning visitor who never received your confirmation email, then odds are your email provider is blockinig emails from our server. The only thing that can be done to get around this is you will have to try creating another forum account using an email address from another domain.

    If you are a returning visitor to the forum and can't log in using your old forum name and password but used to be able to then chances are your account is deleted. Purges of the databases are done regularly. You will have to create a new forum account and you should be all set.

1983 Suzuki GS1100ED --- "Big Boy"

  • Thread starter Thread starter Flaming Chainsaws
  • Start date Start date
bike looks good. You work fast.
A girl that wrenches, yes please.
If you need a carb dip alternative, try purple power. Works great, cheaper, more enviro-friendly.
 
Mista M said:
bike looks good. You work fast.
A girl that wrenches, yes please.
If you need a carb dip alternative, try purple power. Works great, cheaper, more enviro-friendly.
Click to expand...
Thanks! But me working fast? To be honest I'm slow. It's just that I have nothing else to do :rolleyes:.
 
The pod filters got here.
DSCN4093.jpg


Installed on all 4 carbs.
DSCN4095.jpg


Tried to start the bike and this is what happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3hq7xVzZ5g

It doesn't start! I had it running with the t-shirt thingy a few days ago. The starter cranks the engine over but there is no sign of it firing. Spark is good on all 4 plugs, fuel gets to all 4 cylinders, compression is good on all 4. Battery measures 12.74v resting and 11.09v cranking with headlight on.

I think the valves are tight but I don't know how to adjust the valves :(.
 
Just read through the article on BassCliff's site for adjusting 16 valve engines. No shims! :)

I've only done a valve adjustment once in my whole life and that was with a Chevy 350 small block. This is how I did it. Pulled one valve cover off. Start the engine. Tighten the valves until I heard it hit the pistons. Then loosened it until I did not hear the sound anymore. Repeat with all other valves.

I guess that way won't work with the GS1100 engine, huh?

Now I'm browsing eBay for some metric feeler gauges.
 
Flaming Chainsaws said:
Just read through the article on BassCliff's site for adjusting 16 valve engines. No shims! :)

I've only done a valve adjustment once in my whole life and that was with a Chevy 350 small block. This is how I did it. Pulled one valve cover off. Start the engine. Tighten the valves until I heard it hit the pistons. Then loosened it until I did not hear the sound anymore. Repeat with all other valves.

I guess that way won't work with the GS1100 engine, huh?

Now I'm browsing eBay for some metric feeler gauges.
Click to expand...

Allen,

No need for metric feeler gauges. Just adjust to between 3 and 5 thousandths of an inch. It helps to have two sets of feeler gauges so you can out one under each follower finger to get a more accurate reading. If you really want to make the job easy get some Motion Pro Tappet Feeler Gauges and Tappet Tool Set. The job can be done easily enough using regular feeler gauges and wrenches but the Motion Pro stuff makes it a real breeze.

Joe
 
Joe Nardy said:
Allen,

No need for metric feeler gauges. Just adjust to between 3 and 5 thousandths of an inch. It helps to have two sets of feeler gauges so you can out one under each follower finger to get a more accurate reading. If you really want to make the job easy get some Motion Pro Tappet Feeler Gauges and Tappet Tool Set. The job can be done easily enough using regular feeler gauges and wrenches but the Motion Pro stuff makes it a real breeze.

Joe
Click to expand...
Thanks Joe! I was looking at that Tappet set but noticed the price. $40.....

I'm just going to use wrenches and that home made tool. Look! I already found a screw with a square that fits perfectly on the valves :).
DSCN4101.jpg


DSCN4102.jpg


DSCN4105.jpg


DSCN4111.jpg


DSCN4107.jpg



Everything appears to be in good shape. The top end oiler is confirmed to be working. I did borrow a set of metric feeler gauges from my neighbor and the smallest one did not even fit under the valves! I followed all instructions in the guide and even the cam shaft location mark thingy.

I measured under that thingy. Yeah... Don't know what it's called lol. Under the thing that makes contact with the valve and pushes it down.
DSCN4108.jpg



The valves are tight as I thought. That would explain the hard starting.
 
Flaming Chainsaws said:
I'm looking for a wooden dowel or something to stick the screw onto.

And I gave the feeler gauges back haha! Said that I would only borrow it for an hour.

So I need my own. This should work right?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERF...Z260804164290QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools
Click to expand...

Sears should be open til 9. I bought a set of Craftsman valve feeler gauges that have both metric and standard measurements on them...

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00940802000P?prdNo=6&blockNo=6&blockType=G6
 
cowboyup3371 said:
Let's see, Oreilly's, Autozone (they'll let you borrow a set), Napa, HF (Gasp), etc.
Click to expand...
Oh yeah! But I already ordered some feeler gauges. This was the only one I could find that measures between that low! (I need the .003-.005")/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KD-T...Z190471740123QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools

3/8" wooden dowel.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110712982195&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

And I already have some square drive screws.



And a bit off topic, I WANT THESE WHEELS!!! Astralites! It would match my black engine casings with SS bolts so well.
Guz_Astralite.jpeg
 
Whom needs a wooden dowel? just cut the screw length so it's long enough to be useful and file it down so it's square, use a shifter to get a bit of accuracy, then worry about getting a dowel, drilling the centre out and epoxying it in later on.
 
mike-s said:
Whom needs a wooden dowel? just cut the screw length so it's long enough to be useful and file it down so it's square, use a shifter to get a bit of accuracy, then worry about getting a dowel, drilling the centre out and epoxying it in later on.
Click to expand...
Damn. I could have done that. But I already ordered a dowel. Should be here next week. It's OK. I will be busy the whole weekend anyways so waiting is not a problem!

Oh, and believe it or not, I didn't have a 9mm combo wrench :oops:. Ordered that too. Yeah, I'm too lazy to go to the store so I order everything :rolleyes:.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390151985465&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
 
Ugh... My stupid friend didn't sign out of his Youtube account :rolleyes:.

Anyways, did you notice that the starter is working pretty hard to turn crank the engine over? I will charge the battery.

Again, all 4 plugs have nice spark, wet and smells of gasoline after cranking, good compression.

So here's my plan. Charge the battery and then adjust the valves. See if that does anything :).

EDIT: ****! I ordered the blade style instead of tappet style :(
 
Last edited:
"Cam Lobe" would be the term you were looking for in that post above instead of the "thingy that pushes valves down" ;)

Great work, hope it starts right up when you adjust the valves :clap:
 
Don't waste your money on SAE feeler gauges that have metric equivalents. Get dedicated metric feeler gauges and be done with it. I have been adjusting valves using feeler gauges since (well, longer than you have been breathing) and there is no comparison, especially on a (relatively) high performance and high revving engine.
Do it right, do it once. And on this one, this is not JMHO; anyone who has done lots of valve adjustments (especially if you have done both SAE and metric like I have) knows metric is the only way to go for a metric engine. They are exactly correct, i.e. 0.005 mm, just as SAE are exact, i.e. 0.035 in.
 
Flaming Chainsaws said:
Oh yeah! But I already ordered some feeler gauges. This was the only one I could find that measures between that low! (I need the .003-.005")/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KD-T...Z190471740123QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools

3/8" wooden dowel.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110712982195&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT

And I already have some square drive screws.
Click to expand...

OK...when you get a little extra cash...
Get these feeler gauges:
http://www.z1enterprises.com/Tappet-Feeler-Gauges--002--003-inch--Individual-2873.aspx

http://www.z1enterprises.com/Tappet-Feeler-Gauges--004--005-inch--Individual-2875.aspx

http://www.z1enterprises.com/Tappet-Feeler-Gauges--006--008-inch--Individual-2877.aspx

And this adjustment tool:
http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=328322&showprevnext=1

You'll be happy you did...:)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top