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2nd Gear Clutch Issues

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Took the bike out for a spin today, after fixing the running problems and replacing the clutch springs. however, both before and after the clutch springs were replaced, 2nd gear would slip like a mother, so much that i just skip it. It's only 2nd gear, all the others appear to grip just fine. Time for new plates? (Bike only has 12k on the odo)
 
If it is only second gear it is rime to split the cases and replace gears..
 
its doesn't slip out of gear or go into a false neutral like some people seem to come across. Here's a more detailed description of what it does: I have been skipping second because whenever i go into it, even just a slight touch of throttle, and it will just slip and slip and slip but continue to stay in second (not pop out of gear). No other gears do this, but i'm sure the disks are worn and due for replacement. I can downshift to 2nd no problem, just no throttle.
 
its a multiply thing...
if it slips in 2nd...it will slip in any higher gears even worse givin the chance.
let me know if you'd like to know how to test your clutch for slippage..its simple and low speed.
 
its not slipping in any other gear. went through all of them nice and slow and occasionally got on it in 3rd-5th. just 2nd seems to be the problem child.
 
cowboyup3371 said:
Well, since he won't ask, may I? Just for my future reference.

Thanks.
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sureeeeeeeee..:D

get up to about 30-35mph or so in high gear.
pull in clutch lever in and whack the throttle wide open and slam the lever out completely.
if your engine bogs badly then your clutch is fine and holding.
if your engine revs any at all(you will know) then the clutch is not holding.
a person can adjust any of these steps some what but i think everyone gets the idea of how this test works.
i mean you have to have some common sense when doing this if you know what i mean.
i have used this method from hayabusa's to 305 twins.
i used it yesterday on a guys ZX11 who said his clutch wasn't slipping..
he listened to his bike when i rode it and changed his mind at that point.
 
blowerbike said:
i offered to tell you how to check to your clutch for slippage...
oh well.:-s
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Can't he just measure the thickness of the fibres and the condition of the pressure plate?
mine are nearing the allowed limit but I have no apparent slippage.

I am going to try your method if it ever stops raining this year.
 
JEEPRUSTY said:
Can't he just measure the thickness of the fibres and the condition of the pressure plate?
mine are nearing the allowed limit but I have no apparent slippage.

I am going to try your method if it ever stops raining this year.
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the OP is having problems understanding that its not a 2nd gear thing but i understand that he's just explaining whats going on.
if a clutch slips in second then it will slip worse in 5th given the chance.
i'm not much on measuring the fibers...they usually get "hard" and lose grip even when they measure within spec.
i like adding a half a set of barnett springs to bring a clutch back to life.
the lever pressure increases somewhat but nothing like if you add a full set of HD springs.
in a perfect world a person would purchase a full set of OEM fibers/check and bead blast the steels and add a half a set of barnetts to keep it in check for a long time even when beating the snott out of it.
this goes for larger CC higher HP GS's.
adjust my recommendations per CC or HP output.
 
At 65 HP I assume there is little that the clutch cannot handle.

I think the same componets are used on the gs750 for those model years.
Far more power there.

Can it be the shift dogs. he says its not jumpin gout of gear though.
When you shift from a low gear toa higher one how does the torque value imapct the clutch? Does the torque increase dramatically then reduce as you got to taller gears?

EDIT nope not ont he 750 at all I was confused. The 450 shares some clutch components.
 
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well what can happen is if a person doesn't fully release the clutch lever(even though they think they are)between shifts then the engine has a chance to rev higher/clutch slips and doesn't recover.. tork and HP both come into play..each shift multiply's more and more.
a sticky clutch cable or worm mechanism can cause similar problems as not fully releasing the lever.
 
I had trouble once from trying to adjust the clutch.
I got it totally messed up and it was slipping.

I read the manual and everything worked fine after that.
Oh well.
 
blowerbike said:
sureeeeeeeee..:D

get up to about 30-35mph or so in high gear.
pull in clutch lever in and whack the throttle wide open and slam the lever out completely.
if your engine bogs badly then your clutch is fine and holding.
if your engine revs any at all(you will know) then the clutch is not holding.
a person can adjust any of these steps some what but i think everyone gets the idea of how this test works.
i mean you have to have some common sense when doing this if you know what i mean.
i have used this method from hayabusa's to 305 twins.
i used it yesterday on a guys ZX11 who said his clutch wasn't slipping..
he listened to his bike when i rode it and changed his mind at that point.
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Sorry, ha. I didn't know you were trying to explain a method (just thought it was slow/steady or whatever your previous comment was). Ill give it a shot once it stops raining every single day. And ill post results. I appreciate you sharing the method, seems to be an easy test. You talking about doing it in highest gear (6th O/D) or a high gear (5th)? Just trying to clarify things.
 
well the clutch isnt slipping. guess it might be time to replace that stubborn 2nd gear.
 
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