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after draining oil Sparkles found

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While changing my oil I wiped out the hole where my filter goes in. I noted sparkles in the oil on the blue paper shop towel. What can I do now? Rebuild? No idea where the metal is coming from.:confused:
 
are the sparkles magnetic?

a little metal is normal to see every oil change with the roller engines. but the metal / clutch fiber material you see normally is non-magnetic.

if they stick to a magnet -- pull the stator and check the 3 starter clutch bolts - as well as the big end nut.

get into the clutch and look around , pull the pressure plate to check the clutch nut is tight.

These are the common metal makers - starter clutch , clutch lock washer , clutch basket fingers, crank thrust washers.
 
trippivot said:
are the sparkles magnetic?

a little metal is normal to see every oil change with the roller engines. but the metal / clutch fiber material you see normally is non-magnetic.

if they stick to a magnet -- pull the stator and check the 3 starter clutch bolts - as well as the big end nut.

get into the clutch and look around , pull the pressure plate to check the clutch nut is tight.

These are the common metal makers - starter clutch , clutch lock washer , clutch basket fingers, crank thrust washers.
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I have not tried a magnet, but I will. I didn't notice any metal on the drain plug when I cleaned it off. Thanks
 
No metal found

No metal found

I took off all the side covers, Clutch, stator, ignition points cover. Wiped them out with a clean shop cloths and went out in the Sun. No metal sparkling. So I don't know what to think. I'm going to drink on it and wait for replies.
 
Being that ferous metals are magnetic and the drain plug SHOULD have a magnet in the center hole, you would have seen crap stuck to it if you paid close attention. BUT do swipe a pencil magnet around in the oil and inspect it

If its not stuck to the magnet, then common sense would say check areas made of aluminum or where a spinning part could come into contact with something like a cover, clutch basket grooves, cam shaft bearing surfaces, slappy cam chain hitting inside of engine cases, etc etc.
 
Running oil thru a coffee filter will catch the finest particles but its a slow drip process. I have also seen people run it thru a few layers of old socks to trap stuff and check it.
 
Oil Sample

Oil Sample

I always take a Sample of oil (Engine, Transmission,,..) when ever I dump.
Just run a clear glass container under the oil running out.
I use a small Baby Food Glass Jar with Cap.
Did this once after running the motor warm, and got Sparkles, I was not happy.:(
Then after a day of the jar sitting, I flipped the jar over in the sunshine, to see whats sitin on the bottom,,..:pray: was, Nothing!?!?
Turns out the "Sparkle" was just small air bubbles in the oil.:)
 
No clue

No clue

I have not found anymore metal. I drained the oil and took the filter out and the bike sat for 2 days. Thats when I got ready to put the new filter and oil in and wiped out the crankcase hole where the filter goes and noted the sparkling metal. There were no bubbles.
 
meh, i'd run it and not worry too much. you will KNOW if something is really wrong.
 
mike10 said:
I have not found anymore metal. I drained the oil and took the filter out and the bike sat for 2 days. Thats when I got ready to put the new filter and oil in and wiped out the crankcase hole where the filter goes and noted the sparkling metal. There were no bubbles.
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my attempt at humor from the post above mine(baby jar bubbles)..:cool:
ride and keep your ears open.
things may just work out...
 
no more sparkles found

no more sparkles found

I took off the oil pan no metal. Guess I'll just clean her up and put her back together. I'll see what happens at the next oil change.:)
 
If for any reason you, or a recent past user used graphite or nickel or any other metallic grease to lube a cam or tacho cable or something near the engine, it will look like metal flakes in the oil when you drain it. It can take several oil changes to make it disappear. I see this everytime I replace a cam after using nickel antiseize during the instal. JFYI
 
Some small particles on the magnetic portion of your drain plug are perfectly normal. Change the oil and filter at the recommended intervals and you'll be fine. If the oil itself is shiny, you have another, probably bearing, problem. But that's not likely in these overbuilt motors unless they were abused.
 
I toasted a clutch bad and found metal.
Knew I had problems as it would slip.
Should have taken pictures.
The basket was fine without any grooving, but a couple of the plates were cracked and broke off in places..
The plates turning would rub the broken pieces.
It was not the clutch fiber, but the plates holding the material/fiber.
Replaced all the plates inside basket and new springs and running strong ever after.
Kinda embarrassed to tell that as I should have taken it apart when it first started to slip but maybe it will help you.
 
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