Anyone Currently Replacing a Stator? (Mind doin me a solid)

[ekabil]

If you happen to be putting in a stator, could you look at the screws that actually hold the stator in place? I can't find them on the bikebandit fiche, and I would like to get some measurements so I can get nice hex ones.

I'd like to do it ahead of time, or else I would just do it when I replace it...but the nearest parts store is far and I can't just leave my bike open like that in the parking lot of my apartment complex

Edit: I was looking at the diagram backwards. It is
SCREW, 6X30 CRO
[MODEL P/R]

(Bike Bandit) Part number: 1020399

So there ya go, in case anyone's looking for what I'm looking for, its 6X30.

6X30 is the size, does CRO mean the material? I could get a replacement just knowing that its 6X30 right?

 

[Steve]

Edit: I was looking at the diagram backwards. It is
SCREW, 6X30 CRO
[MODEL P/R]

(Bike Bandit) Part number: 1020399

Screw the Bike Bandit part number, that is only good at Bike BANDIT.

The Suzuki part number is 02112-06308.

That number will work every place that matters.

By the way, the BANDIT sells that screw for $1.52, you can get it at G&S Suzuki for $1.12.

($1.52 also happens to be full retail price.)

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[platinum2]

6mm, and 30mm long, just go to the hard ware store and get one, its most likely a 6.125 not 100 fine thread,take the stator with you, its cheaper and quicker

 

[bbytes]

If you live near a Suzuki dealer, they can use that number to look it up as well. It might be more expensive though, and they might have to order it.

 

[ekabil]

Hmm, theres a suzuki dealership near here but again the purpose is to replace the old with hex bolts, not just replace the old. Correct me if I'm wrong but hex have every advantage over philips head screws. So, if I can get the measurements I need to look for, I can get a better replacement for a few bucks at the hardware store.

Looks like hardware store (and auto store) bolts have three numbers. Mx y by z. For example M6 1.0 x 30mm.

Seem like the M has to do with head size, the 1.0 is thread size and then 30mm is length. I knew there was a reason I kept that old stator! As long as I know the length (30mm) of the proper screw, any 30mm replacement that fits the stator will be suitable yes?

Oh yeah, Steve, where is a good source to get actual part numbers? I always thought it was annoying how Bike Bandit did that, but maybe its because they have so many brands of bikes that part numbers might be replicated or something

 

[Steve]

Oh yeah, Steve, where is a good source to get actual part numbers?

Do you remember getting BassCliff's welcome package? In there, he has a list of common vendors that we use, some of them have commentaries on their prices or service (or lack of service). Choose ANY of them, except Bike Bandit (BB). BB is the ONLY ONE that uses its own numbering system ALL of the others use official part numbers.

I always thought it was annoying how Bike Bandit did that, but maybe its because they have so many brands of bikes that part numbers might be replicated or something

Many of the others are dealers that carry more than one brand, but how "confusing" can it be to ask for SUZUKI part # xxx-xxxx or HONDA part #xxxx-xxxx?


By the way, BB tends to charge full retail price, which is shown on many other sites for reference. Because of this they are the second-most-expensive vendor that we know of. The only one that is more expensive is Alpha Sports, but they have other redeeming qualities. Their search interface is nice to use and they have a reverse search where you can enter a part number and it will tell you all the bikes it was used on.


And, would you mind explaining something to me? What is a "solid"? :-k
Waaayyy back in middle school science class, we learned about "liquid", "gas" and "solid". Easy enough.
Much later, I learned that "doing" something (or someone) requires an explaination beyond the PG rating of this forum.
Please explain what you mean about "doin me a solid".

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[ekabil]

"solid" just means favor - while "doing me a solid" could mean more than PG, in this case it just involves a screw.

(no pun intended)

 

[Steve]

"Solid". "Favor". Same number of letters, just as hard to type, but harder to figure out.

Sorry, but I come from the OLD school, where we were taught to communicate as clearly as possible.

I don't use "texting" slang, either. Even when sending text messages. Words are completely spelled out or not sent at all.
When I see posts here that start using "texting" or other stuff I can't figure out, I simply ignore them.
I probably miss out on a few good coversations that way, but the person asking the questiom might also be missing out on what I might have been able to add.

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[ekabil]

haha lol wat ur t4lking yeah I can't stand that stuff too

On topic, the stator doesn't have threading, so how would I find out the thread length? Maybe the dealer will know...

 

[Nhlnms]

Bring the originals to the store and find ones the same length?

 

[Steve]

On topic, the stator doesn't have threading, so how would I find out the thread length? Maybe the dealer will know...

Very confusing here.

1. The stator doesn't need any threading, and what would that have to do with the length?

2. How would you find out? Look at the original poster's thread (oh, my, that's YOU ) and the two immediately following (mine and platinum2's), ALL THREE of them give you the length.

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[ekabil]

no friend, the length between individual threads. The screws I got are, for example, M6 1.0mm X 30mm.

That means 6mm wide and 30mm long (the information you guys told me graciously) and with 1.0mm between threads. When I say "thread length" its the second number (the 1.0mm) I am referring to. Forgive my ignorance if there is a proper word for that.

In reference to the stator holes I'm saying that because there is no threading in the stator holes, and all I have to compare to screws at the store is the stator itself, there is no way to find out the length between threads. There are 1.0, 1.25, and other variations in the thread length. I don't have the stator cover piece to lug around with me unfortunately. If the stator had threading in its holes then I could just screw in one of these bolts, and if it worked, then I would know the threads would match. The length and width I can get from the fiche.

So, we've narrowed down the length and width of the screw. I have a good feeling that I have the right ones (M6 1.0X30mm) since only three came in the box and 1.0mm was the only thread size corresponding to a 6mm wide 30mm long screw, at least at the auto parts store.

Ya feel me? (there ya go Steve, "feel" is six letters less than understand )

Edit: I believe the thread length I'm referring to is the "pitch" and from the five minutes I spent looking up bolts, 1.0mm seems standard for an M6

 

[ekabil]

nihms

I don't feel right leaving the case open like that for an extended time. Shouldnt be too hard to figure out what kind of screw goes in there without opening it up, right? ( we'll see hehe) I mean this bike has only been around for thirty years

 

[Steve]

When I say "thread length" its the second number (the 1.0mm) I am referring to. Forgive my ignorance if there is a proper word for that.

OK, let's see if we can fix some of that ignorance. The term for the distance between the threads on metric hardware is "pitch".
On SAE (American) hardware, that number is "thread count", as in "the number of threads per inch".

There are 1.0, 1.25, and other variations in the thread length. I don't have the stator cover piece to lug around with me unfortunately. If the stator had threading in its holes then I could just screw in one of these bolts, and if it worked, then I would know the threads would match. The length and width I can get from the fiche.

Unless you have a VERY well stocked hardware store, you are likely to only find 6mm bolts in a 1.0 pitch. I think the other option would have been a 0.8mm fine pitch, but they are almost non-existant in hardware stores.

So, we've narrowed down the length and width of the screw. I have a good feeling that I have the right ones (M6 1.0X30mm) since only three came in the box and 1.0mm was the only thread size corresponding to a 6mm wide 30mm long screw, at least at the auto parts store.

See? I told you.

Ya feel me? (there ya go Steve, "feel" is six letters less than understand )

No, sorry. I have a strict "hands-off" policy.

And, since you had to explain it, it was all wasted anyway.

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