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aw, cmon sharpy, now that rotella has emerged as the winner of the oil wars and sh775's have become standard equipment we need SOMETHING other than vortex crap to argue about....lelz
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Sorry, but i find it hard to dumb my self down for this post "argueing". They taking a simple thing like balancing a wheel and added extra crap just to place a band aid solution over problem the bike has. Walk thru any race pits and tell me how many containers of beads or even electrontic balancing equipment does one see. One stand, 4 bearings, a rod and stick of lead or knock on weight does the job for bikes that do 50mph to bikes that do 230+ mph. I even recently had a bike shop owner tell me to leave the weights on the wheel when fitting new tyres as there suited to the rim and electronic balance it that way. SMH. Glad i was only helping him out for a few hrs. K.I.S.S. method always works best. Also i find it wierd that basically almost half the chat in this forum isnt about GS bikes. And i thought FB had a lot of crap. lol Plus theres the term "each to there own" so do what you think is right, me dont really care. Drops the microphone and leaves the room 
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Tubeless and weights for me. I change my own tires and balance them courtesy Harbor Freight and the Mojo Tire lever.
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Ok since your running tubless. And IF your tyres have balancing dots (IE: Dunlop/Bridgestone or Metzeler) have you balanced just the wheel minus tyre to see where to place the balance dots? U be suprised its not always at the valve.
Agreed.
I've found that with vintage bike wheels the true "heavy" spot is quite often not where the valve stem is. It's well worth putting your bare wheels on a balancing stand and marking the true heavy spot with a dot of paint or nail polish, then using that to place balance dots.
On modern bikes, the casting methods (GS and modern bike wheels are and always have been aluminum alloy, BTW, not magnesium) are a lot more accurate, so the valve stem is almost always the true heavy spot.
Also, tire manufacturing is a lot more accurate these days. Many tires are perfectly balanced from the factory, so there are no balance dots.
Avon tyres, for example, don't have balance dots. So once you balance the wheel, you don't really need to balance again as long as you stick with Avons.
Of course, if you have spoked wheels and thus need to use tubes, the heavy spot will definitely be at the valve stem because of the extra weight of the reinforcement in that area of the tube and the valve stem itself.
And no, Suzuki GS cast wheels generally aren't porous and don't generally leak (if you look closely, most are painted or coated on the inside). I've seen and converted many from the era before tubeless tires, and never seen a GS wheel that leaks.
Perhaps some lesser brands had cast wheels that leaked, or this might be yet another one of those "old biker tales" urban legends. Or maybe it's borrowed from the car world, where cheap cast aluminum wheels sometimes leak through defects in the castings.
Tire beads always seem to kick off a minor holy war, but I don't use them simply because they're so damn inconvenient and messy. I simply don't care whether they work or not; I don't want to fool with them. Static balancing is easy, fast, cheap, and more than good enough for MotoGP.
Plus beads are just a crappy thing to do to anyone who might deal with your tires later on. I was once surprised by a tire on a friend's bike that contained beads. Four or five years later, I'm still finding the damn things all over my garage.
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huh! I've yet to see one painted but this reminds me: it was an idea offered to me to stop some avons leaking at bead...on some old tires taken off my old bikes, corrosion and scratches might be helped by painting before remounting...I am thinking latex paint as it's reputed to stick to aluminum very well? (anybody know what paint might be best?....)
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Cant believe it, a thread on balancing beads and almost a full page with common sence yahhhhhhhh
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Good, stay out.
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My 8 year old daughter and I just added them to a set of tube tires still on the bike. Seemed easy enough. Once the rain stops we'll see how they work.
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OMG, thats cool. Next time i rebuild my engine im going to hollow out my crank webs and add beads to them. That way i wont need to worry about balancing the crank. Even better if i use different pistons, the beads will take care of them aswell. Perfect balance for the life of my crank. woo hoooooo
Oh Sharpy, I've got coffee up my nose now. Going to the post office this morning to pick up my tire beads to try. Hopefully I can do that without cracking up. Any idea for when I'm out on the mountain bike doing some gnarly stuff if some beads in each pocket might help. I'm old and my balance ain't what used to be.
No. Magnesium wheels are enormously expensive, IIRC, back in the 80's, a pair of mag wheels was about $1,500.
Waay too expensive for a production motorcycle
Yeah, because you're old and retired now, you'll just have to give up on riding over 100 kmh. Might as well trade that old thing in for a scooter.
Yup and the rim has been cleared of any wrongdoing.
