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battery issue 1983 gs 650 gl

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ok here is my issue !! wondering if someone can point me in the right direction to correct this issue ????
this has happened 3 times this week !!

ok i drive bike 40 km to work in the morning , when i get to work i have to park at the side of the building , to go inside and sign keys out from security , well when i go back outside and try to start up my bike , it doesnt start !! lights come on but very dim < not enough juice to turn the bike over !!
so i push bike into underground and park it in a mechanical room , i return to bike 1 hr later and theres LOTS of juice and the bike turns over with no problems .....

i ride home at the end of the day , and hook my battery up to a battery charger and trickle charge the battery and it charges right to 100% , and everything is ok for a day or 2 days tops , then this happens again !!

battery is brand new bought last yr !!

but why when i leave the bike after this happening for 1 hr is there power to start the bike ??

if the battery is dead ? and wont start the bike , why would it have enough juice to start the bike 1 hr later ??

confused , and at work so no i dont have a tester available to me this minute ...
 
oh one other thing ... installed brand new rectifyer at beginning of last season ....
 
There are problems starters can get that where they won't work when they are hot, but work fine when cold. Can't remember what it was, maybe a brush thing? Sorry I have read about it but can't quite rcall the details.

Assuming your charging system tests OK, and the battery Voltage is good, and the solenoid and cables to the starter are good, solid 12V going to the starter when you push the button, you might want to look at the starter itself.

One more thing, corrosion in the ground cable from the battery to the engine can do this too.
 
Tom R/R you ask ? the rectifyer was ordered from my local motorcycle parts place it was oem and from suzuki ... the battery was purchased at the same time , however it is just a motomaster battery 12 v 14 ah think it was 69.99 ... but i didnt have this problem not once last year ..

i do have a tester at home , so if you could point me in the right direction and order to track this issue down it would be appreciated ...

im just hoping i make it home from down town toronto with out a problem !!!! lol :rolleyes:
 
tkent02 said:
There are problems starters can get that where they won't work when they are hot, but work fine when cold. Can't remember what it was, maybe a brush thing? Sorry I have read about it but can't quite rcall the details.

Assuming your charging system tests OK, and the battery Voltage is good, and the solenoid and cables to the starter are good, solid 12V going to the starter when you push the button, you might want to look at the starter itself.

One more thing, corrosion in the ground cable from the battery to the engine can do this too.
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this sounds exactly what the issue is !! like i said when this happens i can park the bike and let it sit for 30 min to 1 hr , and boom the bike starts up !!! no problem what so ever !!

omg this bike !!!! i have dropped $1000 bucks into it in the last 3 weeks ,
new carb boots
new plugs and new plug caps
oil change and filter
new front and rear tire
new throttle cable
new tach cable
new valve gasket
new fork seals

whats next ??? grrrrrr

looking at at 1978 gs 1100 this weekend hopefully for $1500
 
tkent02 said:
Yeah, the Ls are like that.
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Must be an aberration- L's are practically maintenance free. I won't live long enough to have $1000 in mine!

Irgguy; when you get home do that quick test-don't leap to conclusions.
 
thx alot guys !!! muchly appreciated ...

oh this other bike im looking at this weekend , this guy calls it a 1978 gs 1100 !! did suzuki even make the 1100 in 78 ? cuzz i cant find anything on an 1100 until 1980
 
lrgguy said:
thx alot guys !!! muchly appreciated ...

oh this other bike im looking at this weekend , this guy calls it a 1978 gs 1100 !! did suzuki even make the 1100 in 78 ? cuzz i cant find anything on an 1100 until 1980
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Suzuki never made one, but a lot of owners did.

Could be a 1000E with an 1100G top end, if you're lucky it's a 750E with a 1000E engine and 1100GK top end.
 
this is what he calls it ans here is a pic of the bike ... i got him down to $1300 Motorcycle 1978 Suzuki GS1100, 37,000 KM, gently used and stored. Michelin tires. Ran excellent when put away two years ago. Carb has been completely rebuilt. Needs a battery. Comes with cover. $1500.00 firm
 
he sais he hooked it up to a battery and put some fresh gas in it and it fired right up first try :eek: !!!
 
never mind .. he just confirmed it is infact a 1978 gs 1000 E .. hmmm still looks good for $1300 ,
 
tkent02 said:
There are problems starters can get that where they won't work when they are hot, but work fine when cold. Can't remember what it was, maybe a brush thing? Sorry I have read about it but can't quite rcall the details.

Assuming your charging system tests OK, and the battery Voltage is good, and the solenoid and cables to the starter are good, solid 12V going to the starter when you push the button, you might want to look at the starter itself.

One more thing, corrosion in the ground cable from the battery to the engine can do this too.
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Had this issue with a Mitsubishi Pajero, from cold never an issues when warm very temperamental, stripped the starter a few times unable to locate the cause, could even be connection to the windings soldered joints etc, that look good to the eye but break down when warm/hot.
 
thx Chris ... hopefully like Tom said its nothing to complicated !! will do some testing when i get home ...
at the moment my mind is all over this 78 gs 1000 E !!!

insurance company just gave me the bad news !!! my rate would go up $410.00 buck a year ....

hmmm continue riding this 83 gs 650 gl or climb aboard this 78 gs 1000 ......:D
 
Ok just drove the bike home ... a total of 40 km doing 120 on the hwy the hole way . Pulled into the driveway , turned the bike off ... tried to turn back on !! But zero power what so ever !!! Have charger hooked back up to battery again so I can start bike after charging ... grrrrr
 
When I hooked the battery up to charger it was reading 10percent charged ( LO )
 
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