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Carb Boots

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I am doing the boots and O-Rings this weekend. I got all new from Z1. Any tips on getting the 30 year old boots off? Those screws are not going to come out easy. I have an impact driver so I'll be using that. Finding space might be an issue in there. Anyway, I would be thankful for any tips from past experience.
 
turn hammer sideways on impact drive on cyl 2 an 3

if the part thats coming off is no good (rubber boots) a lil heat works too...thats how i got my stator cover off (was all metal though)
 
If you can get one screw off, you can turn the boot to help loosen the second.
 
For the stubborn center screws, you can come in at a straighter angle with an extension and battery/airbox removed.
Hit it like you mean it! BIG hammer helps. ;)


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Eric
 
I got 1 boot off last night, The other ones are stripped to hell. Im going to have to dremmel them to flat heads and try again or cut the head off and use vice grips.
 
Remember to use ALLEN HEAD screws when you install the new boots.

Of course, you'll never have to take them off again, but IT'S A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE! :)
 
I was warned not to use an impact driver. This worked for you okay and didn't strip the engine?
 
Ajay said:
Remember to use STAINLESS STEEL ALLEN HEAD screws when you install the new boots.

Of course, you'll never have to take them off again, but IT'S A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE! :)
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Fixed it for you. And never say never. I removed mine when I rebuilt the top end on my off-brand bike.
 
You could use a chisel on the side of the screw head and tap it with a hammer (a glancing blow), I've done this many times with satisfactory results with screws that were rounded out. Hopefully you'll be able to get one free for each of the rest of your boots, if you do, then you can rotate the boot and free the other one.
Good luck!
 
sedelen said:
You could use a chisel on the side of the screw head and tap it with a hammer (a glancing blow), I've done this many times with satisfactory results with screws that were rounded out. Hopefully you'll be able to get one free for each of the rest of your boots, if you do, then you can rotate the boot and free the other one.
Good luck!
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Yes this!:clap:
 
Yep, I used an old punch that I ground to an edge. 90? to the face of the head, at 1:00 on the screw head. A good rap to turn the screw counter clockwise. Two or three hits to break it free, then out it comes easy. Had to do this on most of my case screws as well.

Remember, these screws are NOT SAE Phillips , they are JIS, they tend to round out if you use a regular American sae bit. Add thirty years of neglect, ... ya, well. ..
 
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Hand impact driver is the solution. Just got a bunch of badly mangled screws out of my carbs yesterday with it. I wouldn't put my air impact wrench on the engine.
 
FiremanBob said:
Hand impact driver is the solution. Just got a bunch of badly mangled screws out of my carbs yesterday with it. I wouldn't put my air impact wrench on the engine.
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This is what I used to remove all the JIS screws from my carbs. Much easier to use than an air gun and easier to control. Does require a decent sized hammer and a steady hand.
 
Those manifold screws are so soft that if you take a phillips bit and tap it into them before using the slam hammer.
they will become the deeper phillips screws. ;)

Eric
 
Use penetrating oil on it well before you want to take it apart. Kroil is the best penetrating oil I have tried, by a wide margin.
 
7981GS said:
For the stubborn center screws, you can come in at a straighter angle with an extension and battery/airbox removed.
Hit it like you mean it! BIG hammer helps. ;)


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Eric
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Exactly how I did it, worked great, the real trick is, not to get tempted to try and break them free without the use of the impact screwdriver, and booger them up, they are soft, and will strip quickly, making the impacts job even harder.
 
7981GS said:
Those manifold screws are so soft that if you take a phillips bit and tap it into them before using the slam hammer.
they will become the deeper phillips screws. ;)

Eric
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Like so.

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Whack it with a hammer BEFORE you start. ;)
Then, you get plenty of grip on the head.

Eric
 
I got them on! I used a small chisel and hammer in the groove and it turned them right out. All my struggles and thats all it took. Thanks for everyones help. The new boots have my idle too high. I need to lower it now. Which way on the idle adjustment knob to lower?
 
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