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carb sync tool?

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I have a airflow syle carb sync tool used on side draft car style carbs and there are 2 syles one is metal with a adjustable center to get the floating piece in gauge in proper range then you just go carb to carb holding it on the carb opening to check flow. the other is a empi that is plastic with a dial type gauge and you do the same thing but it has a larger range but you do have to adjust idle more to get it in the middle range first then go carb to carb to adjust the same. Will either one of these work on motorcycle carbs? I have used them alot on mikuni side drafts and su style car carbs with success but see everyone using a tube with water on all carbs at once or a different syle that again does all carbs at once? I was hoping to use what I have. Do I adjust the linkage for syncing or something different?

Style 1 http://www.nextag.com/BUGPACK-UNIVERSAL-CARBURETOR-SYNCHRONIZER-648335072/prices-html

style 2 http://www.jcwhitney.com/universal-...72&zmam=15972153&zmas=21&zmac=123&zmap=492172
 
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They won't work. I've tried. Best bet it to find someone close with the right tool.
 
Morgan Carb Tune is the best. Exchange rate is favorable right not too. I'm thinking about buying one and getting rid of my mercury gauge set.
 
I currently have a set of mercury "sticks" that I have had for over 30 years.
They still work well and are still the standard on which everything else is based.

Motion Pro sells a tool for about $85 or 90 that uses some sort of liquid that will look at the vacuum in all four cylinders at the same time.
It works just like the mercury gauge, but uses a more evironmentally-friendly fluid.

Reported to be the best (I don't have one yet), is the Morgan Carbtune. I checked just the other day, with the current exchange rate,
it is $85.85 to have one shipped to your door. It also looks at all four cylinders, but uses NO fluid, so it's a lot easier to store and transport.

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Hi,

I love my Morgan Carb Tune. You must get a set of vacuum adapters from Z1 to go with it. The plastic adapters that come bundled with the Morgan unit are small and hard to work with on a hot engine. Don't forget the special carb adjustment tool.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Steve said:
Motion Pro sells a tool for about $85 or 90 that uses some sort of liquid that will look at the vacuum in all four cylinders at the same time.
It works just like the mercury gauge, but uses a more evironmentally-friendly fluid.

Reported to be the best (I don't have one yet), is the Morgan Carbtune. I checked just the other day, with the current exchange rate,
it is $85.85 to have one shipped to your door. It also looks at all four cylinders, but uses NO fluid, so it's a lot easier to store and transport.

.
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I bought, used, and sold a set of the 'new age' Motion Pro units. I'll save you the frustration, buy the Morgan. Hook it up, synch and go. No calibration, no fluid separation.
 
Suzuki_Don said:
Cliff where do you get the special carb adjustment tool from and how does it work.
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Hi Don,

I bought mine along with the Morgan Carbtune. It's a long screwdriver inside of an 8mm socket. Here's the link: http://www.carbtune.co.uk/carbtool.html

carbtool.jpg


ctoolend.jpg


Use it on the vacuum adjustment screws between the carbs. The socket loosens the jam nut, adjust the screw, then tighten the jam nut.

reassembly040410_11.jpg


And of course you know where to use the tool, on the vacuum adjustment screws.

reassembly040410_01-1.jpg


This is the 5mm adapter kit I got from Z1Enterprises.com.

<< Click the picture to go to their sales page.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Nessism said:
Morgan Carb Tune is the best. Exchange rate is favorable right not too. I'm thinking about buying one and getting rid of my mercury gauge set.
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Care to send that unit via USPS to me in CA?
:-\\\
 
I can verify The Morgan Carb set up is first class !! The tool makes the adjustments very easy. Accept no substitute. It will last a lifetime.. I made the mistake of buying a set of vacuum gauges before I knew better..
 
BassCliff said:
Hi Don,

I bought mine along with the Morgan Carbtune. It's a long screwdriver inside of an 8mm socket. Here's the link: http://www.carbtune.co.uk/carbtool.html

carbtool.jpg


ctoolend.jpg


Use it on the vacuum adjustment screws between the carbs. The socket loosens the jam nut, adjust the screw, then tighten the jam nut.

reassembly040410_11.jpg


And of course you know where to use the tool, on the vacuum adjustment screws.

reassembly040410_01-1.jpg


This is the 5mm adapter kit I got from Z1Enterprises.com.

<< Click the picture to go to their sales page.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
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Cliff where is your choke mechanism?

I don't see it anywhere. On my 650 setup the parts on the long choke shaft that passes through all the carbs and pulls the choke plungers out is directly above these vacuum screws and locknuts. I don't see this on yours. Did you remove the choke mechanism?

Thanks
 
The choke is in the last picture of the carbs. It is connected to the choke rod. Different setup than the choke tube/throttle bracket all in one.
 
Suzuki_Don said:
Cliff where is your choke mechanism?

I don't see it anywhere. On my 650 setup the parts on the long choke shaft that passes through all the carbs and pulls the choke plungers out is directly above these vacuum screws and locknuts. I don't see this on yours. Did you remove the choke mechanism?

Thanks
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Hi Don,

That rod above the vacuum screw, with the 90 degree bend, is part of the choke assembly.

reassembly040410_01-1.jpg


Below we are looking at the vacuum adjustment screw between #3 and #4 carbs. Here again, just to the left of the adjustment tool, is the rod that is part of the choke assembly.

reassembly040410_10.jpg


Below you see the throttle cable on the left and the choke cable on the right.

intake_repair26.jpg


On my 850 the throttle linkage assembly is bolted to the top of the #3 carb and the choke assembly is bolted to the top of the #2 carb.

The choke mechanism is all there, no mods. I guess sometimes my pictures don't show everything in the proper perspective. :o

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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Thanks Cliff, Bill. I guess I have a later model setup and it looks a bit different. Good pics Cliff. Very helpful.
 
If it's on the 77 doesn't that use non-CV carbs? If so the adjustments are under the top cap of the carbs. Take the 3(?) phillips screws loose and the adjusting screw and lock nut are there front and center.
 
IanC said:
If it's on the 77 doesn't that use non-CV carbs? If so the adjustments are under the top cap of the carbs. Take the 3(?) phillips screws loose and the adjusting screw and lock nut are there front and center.
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Thanks for the reply Ian, but I have a 650 top end and CV carbs on the 550 bottom end with six speed.
 
I have just ordered my carbtool & carbtune

I have just ordered my carbtool & carbtune

BTW Cliff I have just placed an order with Morgan for the Carbtune synchroniser and the Carbtool as well. I also have a petcock problem which I will start a new thread on. Don't want to take too many liberties on someone elses thread.
 
Theo said:
Anyone ever use the brass adapters sold by morgan. They seem nice since you can leave them in permanently.

http://www.carbtune.com/ (second one down)
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Hi,

adapbrass.jpg


If those are the same length as the plastic adapters (and from the pictures they look to be the same), they are hard to work with on a hot engine. I guess if you left them there all the time it wouldn't be so bad. But I sync my carbs maybe twice a year when I check the valve clearances. The Z1 kit has longer adapters and are easier to get in and out of a hot engine. And I can use them on my friends' bikes. :)

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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